Nigel Short, age 44, and back to the top !

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sstteevveenn

wasnt that kg one a themetic game where kasparov said he felt he could have resigned after b5.  I think he really didnt believe in that opening as black. 

Knightsight

Nigel certainly has strong opinions over the sleeping/drunk GM controversy lol.

Do you agree with him that GM Vladislav Tkachiev, who in round three of the Kolkata Open was clearly guilty of 'methylated somnolence' should have been chucked out of the tournament?

TheOldReb
Knightsight wrote:

Nigel certainly has strong opinions over the sleeping/drunk GM controversy lol.

 

Do you agree with him that GM Vladislav Tkachiev, who in round three of the Kolkata Open was clearly guilty of 'methylated somnolence' should have been chucked out of the tournament?


 Put this in the drunk grandmaster thread , you will probably get more responses.

PrawnEatsPrawn

Short in another blood-and-guts melee:

 

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1079887

 

It should be noted that both players were nearly out of time by 20, and a number of tactical chances were missed. GM McDonald's book "The King's Gambit" gives an interesting and detailed account.

 

p.s. One crucial line that Black missed: 22 .... Re2+  23 Kg3 Rxg2+  24 Kxg2 Qe2+ .... two rooks and a bishop down, Black forces a draw with his last piece.

goldendog
tonydal wrote:
goldendog wrote:

Here's Elo's historical list (found online http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1160)


2 Botvinnik Mikhail Soviet Union 1911 2720

4 Tal Mikhail Latvia/USSR 1936 2700

That list is a bit specious, inasmuch as (among other possible shortcomings) it's based on five-year averages.  I can distinctly recall seeing a rating list from 1962 where Botvinnik was 2736 and Tal 2713 (Fischer btw was third, at 2706).


 Something I found while poking around:

On Jan 1, 1964, Bobby Fischer won the US Championship with a perfect score of 11 wins. He than began a nationwide simultaneous exhibition for the rest of the year. The first international rating list was published by Arpad Elo in 1964. The top two players were Fischer and Petrosian at 2690. His USCF rating was 2734.

TheOldReb
goldendog wrote:
tonydal wrote:
goldendog wrote:

Here's Elo's historical list (found online http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1160)


2 Botvinnik Mikhail Soviet Union 1911 2720

4 Tal Mikhail Latvia/USSR 1936 2700

That list is a bit specious, inasmuch as (among other possible shortcomings) it's based on five-year averages.  I can distinctly recall seeing a rating list from 1962 where Botvinnik was 2736 and Tal 2713 (Fischer btw was third, at 2706).


 Something I found while poking around:

On Jan 1, 1964, Bobby Fischer won the US Championship with a perfect score of 11 wins. He than began a nationwide simultaneous exhibition for the rest of the year. The first international rating list was published by Arpad Elo in 1964. The top two players were Fischer and Petrosian at 2690. His USCF rating was 2734.


 Isnt there something wrong with this picture ?

goldendog

Without a good set of Chess Lifes from the early 1960s it will be hard to chase down. Almost all my stuff is Chess Review from 40s 50s 60s and then when the 70s roll in I have my CL&Rs from my subscriptions and some of what people gave me prior to when I joined USCF.

There is a set a dvds that one can buy that has it all though. Someday I guess I'll break down and get them (as a fanatic for such stuff I really should).

BTW, the quoted passage above pretty much is in consonance with my understanding that Elo whipped up lists of international players for the USCF. Official FIDE lists come later on.

kco

Hey have you been following his latest match lately against Efimenko
here is the offical website and here the first game was played.

876543Z1

Thanks for posting kco, one up for the younger man. Short typically goes for the bishop pair, but after the light square exchange what was left.

Game 2 another black win.

>:) 

gabrielconroy

Yeah, here it is:

 

 

kco

In the first game Short should have done 37.h4 instead of Kh2 ? he would have last abit longer would he ? or was he under time pressure ?

On the second game Efimenko 51.Qe8+ ? better was Qc3, but somehow around the 30's th moves during the exchange black came out better, you guys what do you think of Short's performance so far ?

Knightsight

A great second game for Short.  Refusing the draw by repetition and playing on.  He's the kind of player sponsors are happy to pay to play in their tournaments.

kco

the third one should be starting soon 3.30pm Ukraine time

kco

Here is the third game it turn out to be a draw

chessoholicalien

Go Short!

Knightsight

No short draw though.  Both fighting and looking for chances right to the end.

kco

A question here, does anyone know has Nigel Short's rating changed since the match against Z. Efimenko ?

goldendog

As I interpret the live data, it looks like one point.

http://chess.liverating.org/toplist.php?pid=400025&compact=1

kco

thank for the info goldendog, well is look like to me hardly any changed at all to me

goldendog

At first I thought it'd be more but then I thought, well +1 over 6 games vs. a player rated c. 50 points less, 1 rating point seems reasonable. It seems like a lot of chess for one point though, and also what can be called a success for Short.

When Fischer beat Spassky by +5, he lost 5 points. It seems incongruous at times.