Nigel Short vs Bobby Fischer

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Amplebeee
even more sad fischers playing signature being magically forged .
Amplebeee

shorts sounds like a [removed -- MOD]!

Amplebeee
the proff shows with his playing signature, you have alot to learn about chess. still think ull master the french by nextyear..? u have alot to learn. ull also learn a chessmaster title will never be yours.
urk
Q: There has been news that you might have been playing on the Internet. Is that true? Fischer: Not true. That's a lot of BS.

Q: Nigel Short said that he met someone on the Net that might have been you.
Fischer: He can say whatever he wants.
Bishop_g5

What Fischer's Signature are you talking about? In the seventh game the so called Fischer plays Whites and opens 1.f4 2.e4 and follows with four Queen moves Qe2-Qf3-Qf2-Qg2?? When before Fischer played these kind of opening ideas? Fischer was public known that was rely in a narrow opening repertoire with extensively analyzed lines designed to give him the positions he wanted to play. Fischer was playing chess to win not to jerk of him self!

I doubt ever Nigel Short said all this. Everything is fixed!

The_Chin_Of_Quinn
urk wrote:


The most decisive "proof" came when Short asked his opponent if he knew of Armando Acevedo, an obscure Mexican player.

The immediate reply was: "Siegen 1970." Fischer had played Acevedo at the Siegen Chess Olympiad in 1970.

"The guy was obviously trying to tell me something," Short told the paper.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1533946.stm

I remember reading about this in chessbase, where some friend of Short's criticized Short's description of "immediately." He said knowing Nigel, that it was probably a fairly good pause, long enough for someone to google or use a database.

Amplebeee
how can anyone forge a chessplaying signature??? fischers trademarks are in all these games, the employment of hooks and ladders , sacrificing space for counterplay,uses his king like a monster.... its proff fischers rating was 2900, and they probably killed him for it... any forensic technician can compre these with his classics, and tell you theyre identical. even the endgame plays the same. fischer always turned crazy positions into favorable endgames.. how can anyone forge it?? fischer also said on the plain that theirs a simpler way of playing chess, than using opening theroy.. mabye this is it..
The_Chin_Of_Quinn

 When I'm playing anonymous blitz vs other anon players, I can tell when I'm playing the same guy again. Sometimes it's the opening or pace or style... other times it's hard to describe, they just sort of give off a feeling.

Obviously this doesn't count with Short and Fischer for multiple reasons, but that's something like a chess signature.

Hel-Reaper
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/4265656/Fischer-caught-out.html
Bishop_g5

 Game six between Fischer and Short. Fischer kick off 1.f4 and then plays Kf2-Kf3-Kg2. If this is Fisher signature moving he's King three times in the opening stage violating all the opening principles about tempo and development then chess has absolutely no logic neither strategy as a game. I doubt ever Fischer meant there is a simpler way playing chess by moving your King in a artificial King fianchetto. It's ridiculous.

If Short was playing black pieces he will had punish Fischer for moving he's King three times in the opening stage only by using pawn breaks and rapid development. Instead Black voluntarily keeps the position closed giving time to White consolidate he's weaknesses in development. Perhaps Short is a smack but he is a Grandmaster 2700 and knows very well that in chess such things can't go unpunished.

 

Stop talking bullshit!

 

The_Chin_Of_Quinn

+1

Hel-Reaper
http://en.chessbase.com/post/the-third-coming-of-bobby-fischer-
IpswichMatt
Rat1960 wrote:

Steven Edward's Extended Position Description was only introduced towards the end of the century. So in 2001 there really would not have been a chess engine that you could load a FEN into and then have it play GM standard half way through the game.

I had Fritz in 1999, I think it was version 5 point something. You wouldn't need to load a FEN into it, you would just switch off the engine and force the first few moves, then switch the engine back on. The Fritz interface then was much the same as it is now.

Amplebeee

before moving his king around he had a fortress., lets nigel move all his peices around and smacks him with counterplay. tthe problem with most players is u all seem to think, theroy is the law. seems like noone knows [removed -- MOD] about the bongcloud. theroy is not the law!! theroy has to be proved as a fact before becoming law... opening theroy is not opening law. !! again theroy is not the the [removed -- MOD] law. read ur dictionary.

Amplebeee
Bishop_g5 wrote:

 Game six between Fischer and Short. Fischer kick off 1.f4 and then plays Kf2-Kf3-Kg2. If this is Fisher signature moving he's King three times in the opening stage violating all the opening principles about tempo and development then chess has absolutely no logic neither strategy as a game. I doubt ever Fischer meant there is a simpler way playing chess by moving your King in a artificial King fianchetto. It's ridiculous.

If Short was playing black pieces he will had punish Fischer for moving he's King three times in the opening stage only by using pawn breaks and rapid development. Instead Black voluntarily keeps the position closed giving time to White consolidate he's weaknesses in development. Perhaps Short is a smack but he is a Grandmaster 2700 and knows very well that in chess such things can't go unpunished.

 

Stop talking bullshit!

 


ur the one who thinks, theroy is the law! theroy dosent win games, the correct move order does.. short was black and looks like he lost.. theroy is not law until proven.
Bishop_g5
Amplebeee wrote:
before moving his king around he had a fortress., lets nigel move all his peices around and smacks him with counterplay. tthe problem with most players is u all seem to think, theroy is the law. seems like noone knows [removed -- MOD] about the bongcloud. theroy is not the law!! theroy has to be proved as a fact before becoming law... opening theroy is not opening law. !! again theroy is not the the [removed -- MOD] law. read ur dictionary.

 

You are a troll who created he's fourth account yesterday to post he's bullshit about something he doesn't understand. These videos are on Internet years now but none serious titled player ever took them with interest because there lack realism all the way! 

The fact that you speak for a fortress in the opening phase it proves how poor is your knowledge for chess. If Short was playing black he will have stop moving pawns on the Queen side when Whites undeveloped King side is an early target by just creating a pawn breakthrough and consolidate your forces there. It doesnt even need to be an expert to realize this.

Amplebeee
i have a chesstitle. nothing says i mandatory need a diamond and have to post a CM stamp on my account. and 2 opening theroy is not law. until you magicly prove otherwise. 3=look at the fortress in the opening he made to move his king from pointa to pointb. i think u don't know what your talking about. those accounts are gone, only had them cause i needed amoderators help confirming email cause the site wasnt working.. do u know what a fortress is ? probably not
Amplebeee
your knowledge of chess is terrible, he moves his pawns in the opening and nigels pawns are helping aid in the fortress!! you explain to me why its not a fortress, protecting his king....... explanation please... in the opening too. lets see you come up with an answer. Noone wants to admit when theyre wrong ... its not hard to tell a lie, and fischer lied when h3 said it wasnt him. didn't want the public knowing hes playing online..... lets ask nigel what he thinks.. have you read a single chessbook.??
Bishop_g5
Amplebeee wrote:
i have a chesstitle. nothing says i mandatory need a diamond and have to post a CM stamp on my account. and 2 opening theroy is not law. until you magicly prove otherwise. 3=look at the fortress in the opening he made to move his king from pointa to pointb. i think u don't know what your talking about. those accounts are gone, only had them cause i needed amoderators help confirming email cause the site wasnt working.. do u know what a fortress is ? probably not

 You are a terrible liar living in he's fantasy world! Only that you claim those games played by masters its a shame and disrespect to the game of chess and history. Now, pay some attention you clown because i am gonna show it only once. I doubt you will willing to understand because from what you are writting it proves how sick is your thoughts and mind.

These games didnt played from players who know how to play chess. The first player playing White pieces plays 1.f4 2.Kf2 3.Kf3 which loses by force if the second player just capture the f4 pawn, play Bd6 followed by Qf6 and Nh6. Whites King is in tremendus pressure since the time lost by the first player moving hes King around cant be replaced with developmnent when the lines are open. White is lost after the simple exf4. There is no fortress for the White King to escape or hide.

Instead Black ignores hes opponent ridiculus and invalid moves playing conservatine passive and finally in the seventh he voluntarily close the position playing e4?? Only someone like you who dont understand chess can play such a moves.

 

 If this game played by Fischer he was under use of Narcotics and Short was at list drank.

I challenge every clown in the chess.com forums to prove me wrong!

VladimirHerceg91
SirFlintstone wrote:

Maybe it was a 6 year old Magnus.

This actually seems like the most plausible explanation. I wonder if Short can beat the Magnus App on age 6. I doubt it.