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TookWithTheRook
How do YOU notate? I never bother to include symbols like "x" or "+" (do you think I should?) and for pawn captures I just write the two letters.
schachfan1

Of course it's silly to write "p" for pawn moves. When a pawn moves from, say, e2 to e4 at the first move of a game, we simply write either "1.e4" (short notation) or "1.e2-e4" (full notation). When a white pawn, staying on, say, f4, takes a black pawn on e5, we simply write either "f4xe5" (full notation) or "fe" (short notation).

TookWithTheRook
None of you understood what I meant. I asked how YOU notate, i.e. Longhand or shorthand
schachfan1
NineSixT wrote:
How do YOU notate? I never bother to include symbols like "x" or "+" (do you think I should?) and for pawn captures I just write the two letters.

For pawn captures I also write simply the two letters )) I use mostly shorthand notation; but when I write comments with diagrams to some game, I use the longhand notation.

Toucantime

FIDE rules 8.1a:

 

"In the course of play each player is required to record his own moves and those of his opponent in the correct manner, move after move, as clearly and legibly as possible, in the algebraic notation (Appendix C), on the ‘scoresheet’ prescribed for the competition."

 

Should you insert x and +?

 

Appendix C.9

 

 

When a piece makes a capture, an x may be inserted between a) the abbreviation of the name of the piece in question and b) the square of arrival

   

 

C.12

The offer of a draw shall be marked as (=).

 

C.13

Abbreviations
0-0 = castling with rook h1 or rook h8 (kingside castling)
0-0-0 = castling with rook a1 or rook a8 (queenside castling)
x = captures
+ = check
++ or # = checkmate
e.p. = captures ‘en passant’
The last four are optional.

So, basically, it all depends on how clear your handwritting usually is, and on how badly you want to make sure you can set a valid claim based on a position proved by your scoresheet...

 

As for me, I write so: 1.e4 - d5 2.exd5 - Dxd5 etc. Good, old and classic! happy.png (including + for check, and = for draw proposals)

 

Toucantime

BobbyTalparov

You tell that to the FIDE, ok? it's all copied from their official pages.

MickinMD

It seems FIDE and USCF - for whom I've been a Tournament Director, require a record in where it's clear how each piece moved for every move.  In USCF play, "check" does NOT need to be announced when it occurs (although it usually is for psychological effect) since announcing it or not, the K is in check, his owner must recognize it and must move out of it.  Similarly, listing check or mate on a scoresheet does not alter the record so should be ok.

Toucantime
MickinMD wrote:

It seems FIDE and USCF - for whom I've been a Tournament Director, require a record in where it's clear how each piece moved for every move.  In USCF play, "check" does NOT need to be announced when it occurs (although it usually is for psychological effect) since announcing it or not, the K is in check, his owner must recognize it and must move out of it.  Similarly, listing check or mate on a scoresheet does not alter the record so should be ok.

All said already loud and clear for the written part, quoting FIDE rules 8.1a and Annex 13.C.