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Ronald_Aprianto

I've often warned the players, if their opponent offer the rematch, they should be firmly responded: accept or decline, don't get confused and just leave it, such as women or effeminate.

One could argue that they are offline or have found a partner of new games, but I could find out the truth by check ping and I followed them. In fact, they are online and are not playing. In short, Abandonment is an indirect harassment.

What should we do if we find players like this? 

LoveYouSoMuch

find another opponent

and yeah, women and effeminates clearly don't like to reply to rematch offers

Casual_Joe

Huh?  I'm lost in regard to your reference to "women or effeminate" -- and for matter in regard to what you're talking about entirely!

HattrickStinkyduiker

Yeah, I just decline nowadays. But I can understand people who ignore it. If you decline directly you might get some annoying messages, if you just ignore they might leave you alone thinking that you're on vacation or something.

Try telling someone that you want to improve by playing better opponents without insulting them, it's ending-a-relationship type awkward. "Yeah we had some fun games together, but after crushing you 4 times I feel like I have to move on to some better players."

Steve922477

>>>such as women or effeminate

Ronald, are you both homophobic and a misogynist?

Ronald_Aprianto
Casual_Joe wrote:

Huh?  I'm lost in regard to your reference to "women or effeminate" -- and for matter in regard to what you're talking about entirely!

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I've said : "women or effeminate" as an illustration to describe a player whose soft and supple, not having firmness in attitude. Rejection of offer the rematch must explicitly stated, not by omission.

I already have some kind of "research", such as what type of player who often ran away from the game field. They are Time Players who rely on connections quality only. Usually, they see the lagging factor as a weapon to make profits. When the opponent has a lagging so large, they are willing to play again for more than twice.

But, when the opponent has begun to avenge the defeat at the next session, their resourceful start working and  no other conclusion unless we get them as losers who scuttled! 

Ronald_Aprianto
HattrickStinkyduiker wrote:

Yeah, I just decline nowadays. But I can understand people who ignore it. If you decline directly you might get some annoying messages, if you just ignore they might leave you alone thinking that you're on vacation or something.

Try telling someone that you want to improve by playing better opponents without insulting them, it's ending-a-relationship type awkward. "Yeah we had some fun games together, but after crushing you 4 times I feel like I have to move on to some better players."

Thanks, your response is so awesome, Cool

Ronald_Aprianto
Steve922477 wrote:

>>>such as women or effeminate

Ronald, are you both homophobic and a misogynist?

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I am not a homophobic and a misogynist? But, I said two words as a term to illustrate a phenomenon of the players indecision. 

Ronald_Aprianto
LoveYouSoMuch wrote:

find another opponent

and yeah, women and effeminates clearly don't like to reply to rematch offers

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Rejection of offer the rematch, perhaps still tolerable, if we did win an absolute. However, regrettably if we reject the opponent who actually they "win the game" because they've the superior position and quality of the pieces on the board and they lost because of the time or lagging factor lagging only. If we are serious about improving the skill to play, we should not declaine them, at least until the point are balanced, then excused himself  to leave the game board. 

PendekarSakti

Ronald, you are too seriously...IMO, if you wanna play in FIDE Regulation, you have to play at FIDE Turnament!!

but now you just play in Site...no matter the reason is playing in site is not like official turnament or match..it is just maybe fun or sight seeing....

if you wanna more seriously match with other opponent than you must deal or something gentlement agreement...

Blunderfull711

I get things like this alot when im playing quick (usually 1 min matches) ppl get mad at me and often right offensive comments on my profile because i refused a rematch so i naturally i just ignore now. i mostly dont rematch because i quickly go on to another game after finishing a short game i really only rematch if i feel i had an exeptional game with someone. People also dont seem to think winning on time is very honorable but there is nothing i can do about u wasting ur time when u know full well ur playing a 1 min game. its really annoying

bobbymac310

Usually if I can't rematch I send a note to that effect, many times the other person leaves the chat before I can get the message sent. Guess I should send the decline first.

macer75
Ronald_Aprianto wrote:

I've often warned the players, if their opponent offer the rematch, they should be firmly responded: accept or decline, don't get confused and just leave it, such as women or effeminate.

One could argue that they are offline or have found a partner of new games, but I could find out the truth by check ping and I followed them. In fact, they are online and are not playing. In short, Abandonment is an indirect harassment.

What should we do if we find players like this? 

um... May I refer you to the "start game" button? In case you haven't used it before, here's what it does: when you click on that button, you send out a challenge visible to all players online that are within your specified rating range. Sounds good? Try it sometime!

Ronald_Aprianto
bobbymac310 wrote:

Usually if I can't rematch I send a note to that effect, many times the other person leaves the chat before I can get the message sent. Guess I should send the decline first.

Thanks for your wise response !Cool

Ronald_Aprianto
PendekarSakti wrote:

Ronald, you are too seriously...IMO, if you wanna play in FIDE Regulation, you have to play at FIDE Turnament!!

but now you just play in Site...no matter the reason is playing in site is not like official turnament or match..it is just maybe fun or sight seeing....

if you wanna more seriously match with other opponent than you must deal or something gentlement agreement...

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Yes we already know, we were just playing on the site ... and I agree that it might just be fun or sight seeing ...., but I noticed that it is better if the player has a firmness to offer a rematch of their opponents. It's very simple, we just press a button to accept or declaine. I'm sorry, if the offer of a rematch ignored without any definite response. This is very annoying and a waste of time. !

Ronald_Aprianto
macer75 wrote:
um... May I refer you to the "start game" button? In case you haven't used it before, here's what it does: when you click on that button, you send out a challenge visible to all players online that are within your specified rating range. Sounds good? Try it sometime!

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out of the context, lol Laughing

Perhaps,... you should re-read all of my previous comments. My point is the determination to accept or declaine by pressing one button, so that the opponent knows clearly and they don't have to wait something useless. .. ggs..Cool

stupaud
Ronald_Aprianto wrote:

 Abandonment is an indirect harassment.

What should we do if we find players like this? 

There is no such thing as "indirect harassment". Either you are being harassed or you aren't. 

If I understand you correctly, you are playing in live chess and when you offer your opponent a rematch they leave rather than accept/decline. Is that right?

It would annoy me if that happened, but you seem to be taking it as a personal assault upon your human dignity and rights. 

Irontiger
Ronald_Aprianto wrote:

(...) One could argue that they are offline or have found a partner of new games, but I could find out the truth by check ping and I followed them. In fact, they are online and are not playing. In short, Abandonment is an indirect harassment.

Of course, following people to see what they are doing is nothing harassing compared to leaving a rematch request unanswered.

Frankly, get over it.

scottault

Sometimes the game is over and I have already started my next game when the rematch is requested. Should I resign the game I am playing so I dont hurt the little girls feelings I just played?

Ronald_Aprianto
scottault wrote:

Sometimes the game is over and I have already started my next game when the rematch is requested. Should I resign the game I am playing so I dont hurt the little girls feelings I just played?

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No problem, if you've started to face a new opponent. Of course, it's different when you're not doing anything. 

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