Offering a draw in a lost position

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BSKGN

To me it seems very rude to offer a draw when you're clearly losing. It's just a distraction and there really is no excuse for it.

Am I crazy? 

didibrian
Yes
TheOldReb
BSKGN wrote:

To me it seems very rude to offer a draw when you're clearly losing. It's just a distraction and there really is no excuse for it.

Am I crazy? 

You are not crazy and you are correct .  I have had people in completely lost positions that they really should resign offer multiple draw offers , offer to abort the game , offer to adjourn the game while they sit and wait for their time to run out .  Then they wonder why I won't give them a rematch ! ?   Undecided

NJCat
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killercrab
Reb wrote:
BSKGN wrote:

To me it seems very rude to offer a draw when you're clearly losing. It's just a distraction and there really is no excuse for it.

Am I crazy? 

You are not crazy and you are correct .  I have had people in completely lost positions that they really should resign offer multiple draw offers , offer to abort the game , offer to adjourn the game while they sit and wait for their time to run out .  Then they wonder why I won't give them a rematch ! ?   

so, so true

NJCat

Very unsportsmanlike.

kykygambler

He is correct but still crazy. Making a fuss of stupid people shows that he just cannot accept that the world we live in is full of retards, which might lead the OP to serious mental problems, maybe alcohol or drug abuse or something ;)

dashkee94

When I'm totally lost and have no hope, I sometimes--sometimes--offer a draw a second before I resign.  It's a little joke I do sometimes, but once, on the ICC, a player actually gave me a draw in a position that I was one move away from checkmate, so I don't do it that much anymore.  But it's not like I'm trying to save the game or annoy the other guy; I hit the draw offer about 1 second before I resign.

MikeCrockett

draws will most likely be accepted from a position of strength. If according to rating you are significantly weaker, your opponent is likely to recover from an early mistake. It makes more sense to offer the draw while you have the momentary advantage. Waiting to offer later after losing the advantage is pointless.

Dodger111

Knew a guy in a week end tournament, he had a clear win, the opponent made the 1st time control and sealed his move because it was closing time and the game would have to resume the following Saturday.  Guy mentioned that it was a 2 hour drive for him to come back the following weekend and pointed out the dead lost position, opponent didn't care. 

Next week guy drove back , opponent wasn't there at start time, so he started the clock and asked TD to open the sealed move. 

It said "Resign". 

Ain't words in the English language to sufficiently describe what a dick move that was.  

2travel

offering a draw in lost positions is the action of unprincipled

cowards hiding behind  the anonymity of the internet...try that OTB and you will regret it

HessianWarrior

On chess.com when that happens to me I resist the urge to call the clown a turd and just make another move. I think that's pretty big of me.

2travel
HessianWarrior wrote:

On chess.com when that happens to me I resist the urge to call the clown a turd and just make another move. I think that's pretty big of me.

thats huge !

BSKGN
kaynight wrote:

The hang 'em flog 'em brigade are in abundance here.

What on earth are you trying to say?

imsighked2

They simply are trying to distract you by repeatedly offering, over and over and over, a draw while you are making moves toward checkmate. People who show extremely bad sportsmanship get blocked by me. I don't want to have to put up with their nonsense again. 

chosmo
wikipedia wrote:

The position in the diagram on the right arose in the game Samuel Reshevsky versus Fotis Mastichiadis, Dubrovnik 1950. Reshevsky played 24.Nd2?, and saw at once that he is put into a very bad situation with 24...Nxf2. Thinking quickly, he offered his opponent a draw, who was busy writing down the move in his scoresheet. Mastichiadis, a minor master, was so happy to get half a point against his illustrious opponent that he did not pause to examine the position before accepting the offer.

 Source and more info on the drawing etiquette:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draw_by_agreement#Etiquette

xman720

I think we should talk about players who offer draws in won positions, searching for Bobby Fischer style.

BSKGN
kaynight wrote:

Try 14 and 15.

What? Write in a manner that is understandable please. What are you talking about?

HessianWarrior
BSKGN wrote:
kaynight wrote:

Try 14 and 15.

What? Write in a manner that is understandable please. What are you talking about?

His answer will be one sentence or less.

BSKGN

My guess is that Kaynight routinely offers draw when he's about to lose. I can't see any other reason to be as defensive as he seems to be here.

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