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jayant_shinde

Hi i am playing a standard game with the opposing team having only the king left and i have a king and a queen left on the table. in this scenario is the game a draw or do i win the game??

jayant_shinde

how does a stalemate occur?? or is there a limit on the number of steps that he or i can take??

parakotaabhanjaka

no. A stalemate occurs when the opponent s lone king has no legal moves but is not under check.

Ubik42

You really should not be getting advice about a game in progress.

jayant_shinde

no i finished the game and won. just wanted to know the rules thats all.

Gil-Gandel

There is a limit - if you make fifty moves with no pawn move or anything taken, the game is a draw. In this case that will be fifty moves since the pawn promoted.

On having had a quick look at the game, it seems perfectly possible that you could fail to finish it in the time allowed so it would be unfair to your opponent to comment further. In the event the game finishes in a draw, I'm sure other people here will be happy to help you learn how to manage next time

ETA: That was quick! OK, you worked out the method - use your King and Queen together to drive the defender to the edge of the board, and then if your Queen is next to the defending King with your own King protecting it, that will do what's needed. You might want to Google this ending to be sure you have it thoroughly mastered for next time it comes up, it is (obviously) one of the commonest endings to a game.

jayant_shinde

Thanks gil i was able to give a checkmate to that person within the aloted 50 moves:)

jayant_shinde

Thanks guys for the help....just started playing chess so i dunno all the rules. i'll be posting here if i need any help:)

FuzzleOIL

1) in this scenario is the game a draw or do i win the game?
2) no i finished the game and won.


Why do you ask then? If you have won, you should notice that it is not a draw.

SocialPanda

he asked before finishing the game, later he won, and then he keep asking to be sure about the rules.

Pat_Zerr

The only way it's a draw is if it's K vs. K, or K vs. K+N or K+B.  K+R or K+Q is very winnable.

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N2UHC wrote:

The only way it's a draw is if it's K vs. K, or K vs. K+N or K+B.  K+R or K+Q is very winnable.

And in normal situations, also K+N+N vs K is also a draw.

MSC157

Draw is also KR v KN.

ThrillerFan
N2UHC wrote:

The only way it's a draw is if it's K vs. K, or K vs. K+N or K+B.  K+R or K+Q is very winnable.

This is not totally true.  In addition to the other mentioned scenario, KNN vs K (the second player must specifically NOT have a Pawn to declare it a draw), there are other scenarios where it's a draw:

As mentioned prior, 50 moves are made by each player and neither side made a pawn move and neither side made a capture for the duration of the 50 moves by each player (i.e. 100 moves, 50 by Black and 50 by White, where NEITHER side has captured or moved a pawn, just because White hasn't done it doesn't make it a draw).

Mutual Agreement - One player makes their move, offers a draw, and hits their clock.  The opposing player has the choice to accept or decline.  Don't offer the draw before you make your move.  Offer it after you make your move, but before you hit the clock.  The reason is that once you offer, you are committed to offering it until your opponent makes his next move, so he can force you to move before making his decision.  If you suddenly realize you have a winning line, tough!  He may accept if you play the winning line, and decline if you don't!  A common scenario of drawing by mutual agreement is something like each side has a King and Rook with no immediate skewer, or each side has a king and 3 pawns, opposing, where neither side can make progress, etc.

3-fold repetition.  This one is tricky.  It must be the same position (NOT the same moves made, same position can occur 10 or 20 moves apart if no pawns were moved, it's possible) with the same player to move and that player having the same legal options all 3 times.  For example, let's say you haven't moved your King yet, you haven't moved either Rook, there are no pieces in between the King and either Rook.  Your opponent does not have you in check, and he doesn't control the square on either side of your King, nor the square you'd walk into if you castled.  His last move was d7-d5 (a pawn) with a White pawn on e5.  Therefore, you have the legal options of En Passant, Castling Queenside, Castling Kingside, or making another move.  You make a Knight move.  He moves his Knight.  You move your Knight back to where it was.  So does he.  This is NOT 2 occurrences because the first time, I could play en passant, the second time, I can't, so I don't have the same legal options.  Next I play Ra1-b1, he moves his knight, I put my rook back, he puts his knight back.  Still only 1 occurrence because now I can't castle Queenside.  Next I move my King, he moves his, I move back, he moves back.  Still only 1 occurrence as now I can't castle Kingside.  Next I go Ke1-d2, he plays Ke8-d7, I play Kd2-e1, he plays Ke8-d7.  Now it's 2-fold repetition.  Next I go Ke1-d2, he goes Ke8-d7, I go Kd2-d1, he goes Kd7-e8, I go Kd1-e1.  This is the same position, but now it is BLACK TO MOVE, so this position has occurred once with Black to move, and Twice with White to move.  If it occurs one more time with White to move, it's a draw.  If it occurs two more times with Black to move, it's a draw.  The draw must be claimed by a player.  The game doesn't stop automatically!  One player must call it!

Time vs Material - If one player runs out of time, and the other player has insufficient mating material (K, K+B, K+N, or K+N+N ONLY if you have no pawns left), once the clock is called, the game is ruled a draw.  If the player with time left when he calls time on his opponent has any form of mating material (a pawn is mating material because it can be promoted), the player with time left wins, but if he doesn't have sufficient mating material, then the person that called flag can claim a draw on time.  If he has sufficient mating material, it's a win on time.

Hope this clarifies possible draws.

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MSC157 wrote:

Draw is also KR v KN.

Look I got once this draw, it was very difficult for me:

Black_Locust

On that K vs K+Q, congratulations on forcing a checkmate rather than a stalemate.  Stalemating in that situation is VERY easy.

EDB123

socialista, which color were you?

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EDB123 wrote:

socialista, which color were you?

I was white, my oponnent was 85 years old, but his peak rating was  2122 Tongue Out

odisea777
jayant_shinde wrote:

Hi i am playing a standard game with the opposing team having only the king left and i have a king and a queen left on the table. in this scenario is the game a draw or do i win the game??

I think you'd better resign. You have no chance

Doublebarrelshotgun

The best move is to just keep cornering their king with your queen and then move your king so that there is only one space in between your king and their king and then use the queen to checkmate them since there always has to be a space in between the kings.