Pawn Promotion Is Ridiculous

I just want to start out with how the current rule for pawn promotion is just silly and ridiculous and it shouldbe changed. The truth is that there is no rule for how many pieces you can promote to. Hypothetically, you can promote the pawns to 8 queens, 8 rooks, 8 knights or 8 bishops. In my opinion, pawn promotion should be restricted. Pawns should only able to promote up to 1 queen, 2 rooks, 2 knights or 2 bishops, only if the pieces are taken out. For example, the pawn cannot promote to another queen if the first queen is still alive on the board. The pawn cannot promote to a third rook if both rooks are still alive. Etc. This creates more strategies as the pawn will just be sitting on the 7th rank, wanting to promote to the queen but can't because the queen is still present. So they must decide which of the other pieces they want to bring back. This will solve the problem how easy it is to win in the end game where both players are just pawns racing and one gets the queens and then Check, Check, Check, Check, Checkmate! What!? See this is not very strategic. If the pawn promotion was restricted to how I said, then the end game will be more strategic and more entertaining to watch. What do you guys think?

Nah we ain't changing Chess rules just 'cus you don't jive with it, turkey.

Dude you don’t get chess there are 3 boards 2 of them are invisible and it’s filled with queens approaching the board the pawns represent them pls inform itself b4

no

Lol I wanna say a few things to that.

First of all, you used an inclusive word such as "we" as if you're one of the people who made the rules. You're not so don't act like you are.

Second of all, my suggestion was actually practiced in some countries. It's just that stupid wealthy and powerful western country popularised it across the globe. Maybe learn the history of chess and then you will come to know that pawn promotion was restricted.

Thirdly, you're just some die-hard chess fanboy who cannot take criticism and will refuse to listen to anything that criticises the concept of chess that you fancy with all of your life. Clearly, you're blind to the flaws of chess.

And lastly, what I said above, about chess, doesn't change how chess is played at all. It just makes it harder and unlocks more strategies game plans, that's the very nature of chess! STRATEGIES!

Seems like you're just an 800 rated player who's incapable of strategic thinking but instead pushes pawns forward and promote it to so many queens that you just want to end game with easy wins. Bet you didn't even read the whole thing.

Huh? Can you elaborate?

Changing the rules would break continuity with literally hundreds of years of chess history. One of my favorite things about chess is the unbroken connection with the past.

I understand that, but however, chess was actually played the way I mentioned at one point. It's just that later, they decided to chnage the rule to unlimited queening, bishoping, etc. Chess just got evolved and got changed from countries to countries. And now we have this current chess. In my opinion l, chess is better off with only be able to promote up to 1 queen, 2 rooks, 2 bishops and 2 knights, but can't promote if the set number of pieces still playing, if you know what I mean.

This will be a good addition but it will break the endgame principles we already know. Will be a good addition to variants though. Also many won't like to relearn their endgame principles again.

yeah it's like saying let's change the placement of country borders.

I have already addressed that. It's not very chessy if you have many queens. The game is all about strategy and involves your brain to make strategic plans. If you have many queens then there isn't really creative thinking, is there? At least in the end game. However, if you actually limit the promotion then finally players will start promoting their pawns to knights, bishops, and rooks way more often. Because right now, almost indefinitely they promote them to queens, just makes the game very easy and boring. That's what I'm saying. Hope you now realised how chess should be played.

That's the sad part. We can't change anything. But I wish it was always like this. It just makes more sense. Like why do you want too many queens? That's just childplay.

Stalemate can be easily avoided. Also remember, Stalemate only exist when pieces are blocked and when king can't move. What if they weren't blocked? Most of the time, they aren't. Checkmating with queens happen wayyyy more often than Stalemating. I want to play Chess chess! Not Queens chess.

if youre at a stage where you can promote 5 queens and the opponent can do nothing about it, and cant promote his own queens....

congrats you already did enough strategic thinking to get to such a point

also.... this doesnt change the fact that you can just trade queens and promote in the endgame

pawn promotion is designed to be hard to accomplish (just look at the starting position) so if its that easy then the player is already dominant

If we're bringing anything back with pawn promotion I think we should bring back being able to put a pawn on the last rank without promoting it. Why? Because it's funny.

In all seriousness though, I think the suggestion makes some sense if you're paying with actual chess pieces because you don't need extra pieces for promotions.

But really, I feel like pawns are already weak enough as it is; nerfing them like this is probably not the way to go. If anything, I'd give them more promotion options.

It kind of sounds like the main reason you want to change this is aesthetics, and imo en passant and castling are much less aesthetically pleasing than pawn promotion.

Well then it's not the problem with pawn promotion. It's just your opponent's problem for being bad. And what if your opponent doesnt let you trade queens? You're saying it like it's easily achievable every time. But then again, what's the need to promote to more than one queen? My very problem with this is that it makes the game wayyyyy easier when it shouldn't be. Whether you like it or not. Restricted pawn promotion is objectively wayy more strategic than not restricted version.

I love it as it is personally.

Yeh I get that but pawns are nit designed to attack opponent's pieces though. It's to block, support your pieces and promote to pieces. That's the job of pawns.

And about castling and en passant, I do think it's a good ideas to have a few special moves as if it makes the game interesting and a bit unpredictable, if you know what I mean. But if you have too many special moves then there will be a problem. But en passant and castling are just fine and doesn't really break the strategic game, whereas promoting to like 8 queens does break the game to children's game. If we have the restricted promotion, then other pieces would be used more often.

actually such a rule will reduce the trolls who promote to 5 bishops

See what I mean? It's just silly and stupid.