People repeating moves

Is it me or is it just blatently rude to continually repeat a move? I personally never play the same move more than once, because I think it's really annoying for my opponent. What's the consensus?

It is my opinion that one can only play one side of the board. What the opponent moves is his business, not mine.

That's a valid opinion but we were even and I offered a draw, then he refused and kept making the same move. I had to keep repeating mine because of him, it was all pointless!

You can only play your own moves. And, like it or not, the other fellow has the right to decline a draw. I only offer a draw once. If it is declined...eh. If later he wants to offer a draw, that's fine. I may or may not accept it.

Don't let the personal irritations bother you. Such is life.

yeah I like your spirit, thanks.

Also...you do know about the three repeat rule? Or the 50 move rule?

there are some reasons why you would repeat moves.

if you are in time pressure even higher rated players repeat moves twice in order to buy time. It is often safe to repeat moves and it doesn't cost time to think. if you have 2 hours for the first 40 moves. you can repeat your moves twice 2 get to move 40 and receive 30 minutes more.

Josh Waitzkin drew a game once because he wanted to use this strategy to reach move 40 but accidently repeated moves 3 times.

of course if you want to draw by making the same moves 3 times is also a legit strategy.

also if you build a good foundation(all pieces are on optimal squares) you can repeat your moves and wait and see what your opponent does.

maybe the opponent does something too premature and can be punished.

it is never rude to repeat moves. it is part of the game.

if your opponent repeats move more than once during the game try to make a change in the position that would make it wrong to repeat moves.

a pawn on another square might be enough to make the repeated move unsafe.

No I didn't, thanks for the information. I really couldn't make an alternative move without losing the game, a draw would have been the right result.

To annoy your opponent is the goal of this game. After all it's a war game.

I think since your opponent declined your draw offer he was playing "hope chess" that you suddenly played an alternative move.

this is not rude to hope but bad chess playing.

Per one of the above posts, yeah...in speed chess things like pre-moves, repeat moves, move-anything-but-do-it-quickly become paramount when trying to outrun the clock.

There are plenty of good reasons to repeat moves. GMs do it all the time. Neither hope chess nor poor play.

I think it's cheating a bit. I mean it can't possibly be a sensible move if you know the reply will be a repeat move by your opponent. I don't want my chess games to be unfriendly, I want my opponent and I to enjoy the challenge!

If he declines the draw but then repeats moves just claim the draw 2 moves later.

If the 3-fold-repetition rule took place, he doesn't even have the option to decline the draw another time.

Repeating a move is a legitimate way to a draw if your opponent refuses a draw in a drawn position.  But more importantly, a gm once told me that one looks for the best move.  If the best move is a repeat, that's still the best move.

if you read my previous post you will know I say the same thing but from the description it sounds like hope chess. why else reject draw if you keep repeating move in the same position. other than to hope for an error.

you cannot avoid that people will repeat move in a game. But you can learn to calculate 3-4 moves ahead to make sure that you don't end up in a line that gives your opponent the opportunity to repeat moves.

I don't see any unfriendliness in repeating moves.  it is part of the game. just claim draw if he does it 3 times in a row and move on.

A reason not given for repeating moves is that the person repeating the move may want to make his opponent waste time on his clock thinking about a reply. Also there is a psychological factor, the opponent may not want to draw and by repeating repeating a move you may entice your opponent to make an inferior move just to avoid a draw. If you want toknow what annoying is, I was playing someone in a chess club and the position was drawn and I repeated the position 3 times and said that it was a draw. He refused to allow the draw saying the moves had to repeat not the position. He was wrong of course and he refused to admit he was wrong. Eventually I was so annoyed that I made and inferior move and lost the game. I never played with him again and now he never even comes to the chess club because no one will play with him because he continually invents his own rules and argues with everybody. If he ever does come around again I will not play with him. If he requests a game I will politely decline but he is welcome to play anyone else in the club who wants to play him which is no one.

well it's not so bad if you can avoid a repeating situation, or cause a draw through the three repeat rule, but I still say what happend to manners. We shouldn't have to have the three repeat rule. It's just basic respect!

you can see what people on here dont have sportsmanship