Players undermining the aesthetics and brilliance of an "immortal".

I constantly see players post in the threads say they played an immortal chess game....

Now, hear it from my perspective of what an immortal game is.

When I think of an immortal game is, I think of a game where the side conducting the "masterpiece", to have sacrificed so much material, with relatively little material on the board compared to the opponent, but to be able to conduct an attack that will result in a mate or win of big material. Normally a queen sacrifice (attempt), a rook sacrifice (attempt), and perhaps one minor piece sack (plus many other sacrifices that are legitimate and not fool-hardy) is the minimum to be considered (as a start of) an immortal game.

From my perspective, when I see a player posting about such, I expect a high-quality combination of some sort, and various sacrifices (attempts), not some gibberish about how they happened to "sacrifice" 4 pieces, and "forced" checkmate with only a queen when in reality they dropped those 4 pieces for nothing, and their play looked like pieces were sky-diving at no end off the board.

Furthermore, they get really lucky in such a position and scream, squeal, cry with joy about how they think they played something amazing, when in reality....it was (sub-par at BEST AT ANY POINT) to be perfectly honest.

My point is that, I die a little inside when I see players posting about something they don't know about. Perhaps even blindly post about a game they think is amazing, but is nothing special (crushing some dreams!) and it looks very similiar to what I throw in my garbage can. '

I get tired of these players ruining what an immortal is all about, making their games comparable to andersson and kasparov when in reality, they can't even fathom the complications they had to calculate to even come across the combinations.

I could only dream to play an immortal chess game.... 

In conclusion, if you post an immortal chess game, it better be good. Because I will trash your thread...I will blow it to bits.

I am tired of this crap.   There are a lot of repeated statements, but I don't care, this has been on my mind.

There's only one member on chess.com that I've seen that has truly played something like an immortal OTB, and that dude is FM_ Pektrov or something, I forgot his name, but if you see his game, THAT'S immortal, not this rubbish people post.

How close does this game come to satisfying your definition?

I have never posted it as a claimed "immortal"... just as a nice tactical game.

Let's make it happen!

Bleemu, im talking about players who claim their games to be "immortal" when they clearly aren't. Since you didn't, then no foul really. Btw, that's a great game you played really, love it. It just "grinds my gears" to see people showing a lucky checkmate after a drop of 5 pieces and then claim its an immortal, theres a lack of quality.... 

no comments on the great Kasparov's game?

I have to say I have been one of those people...I played what I thought was awesome sacrifices, but was more like "pieces sky diving at no end off the board". I posted it in the showcase out of excitement for winning, realizing at least one sacrifice was a gamble. My opponent played into my hands and I w on, but not from my tactical genius, more from not calculating variations.

Kasparov's double bishop sacrifice, and amazing Rd3 move is up there with one of the most silent killers of all time.

I constantly see players post in the threads say they played an immortal chess game....  randomemory

If this is the most important thing you have to worry about I envy you

nah nimzo, im not a person anyone should envy really, i dont deserve that.

this type of stuff is just one of those things that irritates me, a pet peeve in a sense.

Some of the peeps labeling their games as "immortal" may be doing so tongue-in-cheek (hopefully) or maybe they mean it's their "immortal" game WTF everyone should have something that they're proud of - or at least every chessplayer should

I can relate to random just on the general idea of people putting themselves up so highly. I guess for me I think, yeah, of course it's fine to be proud of yourself, but why do you have to tell the whole world? I might be proud of myself with certain games I play, but it doesn't mean I'm going to try to just shove that pride in everyone's face. If you're really proud of yourself you don't need to ask others to be proud of you. Perhaps if they want you can show them what you are proud of, but in a plain manner, in a way that allows them to judge for themselves whether the game was truly impressive or not.

Some of these people say they just want the chess community to see something pleasing -- I think some people really do have this intention, but I think others, based on their general tone, are just posting it for outright bragging purposes, or to, temporarily, feel superior.

In conclusion about posting your "immortal".

Is this the one youre talking about? The game was posted on daily puzzle submissions, so i dont have the whole game. EDIT: Found it.

Yes, thank you for that chessgdt.

Let's make it happen!

You can't have an Immortal Game unless you are a grandmaster

Certainly not an immortal, but, hey, for 3 0 it could be (and often is for me) worse:

an immortal game in my opinion is one where the other player is playing seemingly correctly given the state of theory of the time but when the first player, in creative and brilliant ways refutes the standard play of the opponent.