Points on pieces

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We know that each piece is assigned a point value

Pawn-1

Knight & Bishop-3

Rook-5

Queen-9

King-oo (infinity symbol)

This is a debate and a question.  First where did this originate and wy, so i can know and for the second part of this.  Second, do you think this is a good idea (point for pieces)?  Should there be no points?  Should they be changed?  Or are they just peachy the way they are?  Elaboration makes for better debate.  Please keep this PG as well guys, Thanks.

RC_Woods

The points just help during the evaluation of a position, they have no other relevance but they are good for this purpose.

the division of points is based on practice. there are many exceptions too.

I would keep this division of points because it is a solid basis for understanding chess, as you will find out about the nuances on the go either way.

erikido23

a good guide for newer players.  I can't remember the last time I counted the points.  As you get better and better you realize the value of the pieces change throughout the game and your evaluation of those values will get better the more understanding you have. 

falling-upwards

yepp, i can see this, k thanks.  truth be told, i never really cared for them and never paid attention to them myself.  thanks for the def.

hanngo

This might help

http://www.chess.com/article/view/chess-piece-value

falling-upwards

here's something, in one of my games, i am tied points wise, around 20 moves, so midgame, and i lost 4 pawns, while he lost 1 pawn and 1 knight, whot would be your stance on who has the better strength (for lack of a better word)

hanngo

falling-upwards: here's something, in one of my games, i am tied points wise, around 20 moves, so midgame, and i lost 4 pawns, while he lost 1 pawn and 1 knight, whot would be your stance on who has the better strength (for lack of a better word)

Well...since you have the extra,you have an extra attacker and you will have middlegame attacking chances,while your oppenent will have to try and push his pawns to queen and also trade off pieces,the less pieces on the board,the less chance for you to work up something,so it is better to not trade pieces in that position.

falling-upwards

thanks

erikido23
LYCAN148 wrote:

falling-upwards: here's something, in one of my games, i am tied points wise, around 20 moves, so midgame, and i lost 4 pawns, while he lost 1 pawn and 1 knight, whot would be your stance on who has the better strength (for lack of a better word)

Well...since you have the extra,you have an extra attacker and you will have middlegame attacking chances,while your oppenent will have to try and push his pawns to queen and also trade off pieces,the less pieces on the board,the less chance for you to work up something,so it is better to not trade pieces in that position.


 I wouldn't say you trade off pieces...In this case you want to trade off pawns(keep in mind a knight on its own can not mate).  So if your opponent trades off all pieces that leaves your knight versus his pawns.  That means your opponent would have AT LEAST a draw and possibly a win. 

erikido23
erikido23 wrote:
LYCAN148 wrote:

falling-upwards: here's something, in one of my games, i am tied points wise, around 20 moves, so midgame, and i lost 4 pawns, while he lost 1 pawn and 1 knight, whot would be your stance on who has the better strength (for lack of a better word)

Well...since you have the extra,you have an extra attacker and you will have middlegame attacking chances,while your oppenent will have to try and push his pawns to queen and also trade off pieces,the less pieces on the board,the less chance for you to work up something,so it is better to not trade pieces in that position.


 I wouldn't say you trade off pieces...In this case you want to trade off pawns(keep in mind a knight on its own can not mate).  So if your opponent trades off all pieces that leaves your knight versus his pawns.  That means your opponent would have AT LEAST a draw and possibly a win. 


 oops, I read your post wrong nm

falling-upwards

super quotes!

Winson

The points system is good guide for beginnners. However, as you become more experienced you realise that in different situations in a game some pieces have a much greater value than stated. For example, rooks are most effective in middle-end games so are worth more points but are not as important in the opening. Another example is that when your opponent has a rook and 2 pawns and you have 2 bishops and one pawn... the bishops have greater value than the rook because of its vast attack range and movement.