Promote a pawn to a pawn

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Sacha_T

dude its like you working 24 hours a day every day and making some hard work in which you can die. Then your boss comes to you and says I will promote you.. you will not be pawn anymore, you will be.. pawn!! Muahaha.. that would be making of you a fool, which isn't diserved as you worked 24/7.

Chess is like life ;)

Nytik

The official rules (e.g. Fide) actually say something like "Pawns can then be promoted to a queen, rook, bishop or knight." The general accepted rule whenever you are playing a game is that a pawn must be promoted to a PIECE, and as a pawn is not a piece this cannot be done.

On the promoting to extra queens rule- some sets are sold with extra queens. If these are not at hand, use upside-down rooks or, if no rooks are available either (and this HAS happened in my games against schoolmates) we use two pawns on a single square. If no PAWNS are available (it is fun tossing around the opposition, isn't it?) then, well... to be honest, your opponent should really consider resigning or something. If for some reason your position is still even (technically possible, though that would be an odd game!) then any token that isnt a chess piece would be fine.

joetheplumber

On the topic of promotion. Is there any point in getting a rook or a bishop? Ever?

Nytik
joetheplumber wrote:

On the topic of promotion. Is there any point in getting a rook or a bishop? Ever?


How are you ask such a question! Tongue out

This type of promotion is to avoid situations where promoting to a queen would result in stalemate. Sometimes you have no choice but to promote to one of these pieces.

KillaBeez

I was thinking that you could promote to a pawn and then switch the pawn out with any piece for your move at any given time.

coffeemug

If you're going to promote a pawn to pawn, you might as well throw that pawn out the window!

neospooky
Portuguesx2 wrote:

Chess is like life ;)


Which is better than "chess is lifelike."

Anyway, can I promote a pawn into the tophat from Monopoly?

Nytik

You can, Neospooky, if no extra queens are at hand! Smile

ShiViChess

Why not just give the pawn a special ability instead of promotion? EX: Pawn can move/attack backwards, can move one or two spaces forward on any turn, en passant rule doesn't apply, etc. Or you can promote or chance on returning - gthen you can evolve into the knightly queen - moves like a queen or a knight, can jump over pieces, worth roughly 15 points. Or a king, and the Multiking rule - if both kings are attacked, both can move as long asthe king(s) don't castle, capture a piece, or uncover a check.

GIT-REKT

Sideways knights work for make-shift queens. Or upside-down bishops. I use stacked pawns.

dmeng
Nytik wrote:

The official rules (e.g. Fide) actually say something like "Pawns can then be promoted to a queen, rook, bishop or knight." The general accepted rule whenever you are playing a game is that a pawn must be promoted to a PIECE, and as a pawn is not a piece this cannot be done.

On the promoting to extra queens rule- some sets are sold with extra queens. If these are not at hand, use upside-down rooks or, if no rooks are available either (and this HAS happened in my games against schoolmates) we use two pawns on a single square. If no PAWNS are available (it is fun tossing around the opposition, isn't it?) then, well... to be honest, your opponent should really consider resigning or something. If for some reason your position is still even (technically possible, though that would be an odd game!) then any token that isnt a chess piece would be fine.


You're just restating what has already been said.

ELBEASTO

this is a random topic lol

Jythier

Tophat special powers - roll two 6 sided dice.  If you get doubles, you get to move again... 

dmeng
Jythier wrote:

Tophat special powers - roll two 6 sided dice.  If you get doubles, you get to move again... 


Lol. If you use a racecar, I say you move two more times if you roll doubles... :)

radiantandy

You can. It then becomes an Nwap, and can only move in the opposite direction back down the board. If it gets back to your own baseline it reverts to being a regular Pawn again.  You can indicate its change in status by rotating the piece through 180 degrees.

KalemKitap
Eli wrote:

Three options in this bizzare situation.

A. 1. f8=Q (or f8=R) Stalemate. Promoting to a knight or a bishop is not an option because there's 7 seconds left on the clock and no spare chess pieces.

B. King moves. f-pawn falls and white loses on time. Maybe.

C. 1. f8=f8 Using the reflexive property white keeps the pawn, gaining opposition and promoting next turn. Winning with: 1... Kh8 2.f8=Q+ Kh7 3.Qg7# Looks like promoting to a pawn is the only reasonable option.


In your diagram, white's a2,c2,f2,h2 pawns are in their original squares, which means they were not ever moved - so how come white's bishops end up on b2 and g2 squares then? 

Rejla

That should be possible, because there are positions where promoting pawn to a pawn actually saves the player from getting mated. Because if player has only king and a pawn, and king is in a stalemate and players only move is to promote a pawn, then the player could somehow get out with a draw.

Here is one such position:

https://lichess.org/editor/8/Ppp3pp/1p6/b7/8/5nkp/7p/2n4K_w_-_-_0_1

Rejla
Tiger-13 je napisao/la:

basically i figure that everybody who is not crazy would not promote a pawn to another !@#$% pawn

 

That should be possible, because there are positions where promoting pawn to a pawn actually saves the player from getting mated. Because if player has only king and a pawn, and king is in a stalemate and players only move is to promote a pawn, then the player could somehow get out with a draw.

Here is one such position:

https://lichess.org/editor/8/Ppp3pp/1p6/b7/8/5nkp/7p/2n4K_w_-_-_0_1

 

Odhinn222

I know this is a 12 year old post but the presumptuous responses are getting to me.  Actually the great Alexander Alekhine once DID promote a pawn to a pawn and there was a reason for it. I don't recall why, maybe to avoid a stalemate or draw while effecting a win on time.  This might happen if a R or Q would create a stalemate and a minor piece would not be enough material to declare a win on time, whereas a pawn on the board is declared winning material per the rules.   Or he may have done it to create a nice Zugwang for the **** of it. I've actually seen a game (Alekhine-Amateur, Vienna 1936) where he took a longer-than-necessary mate for the novelty of it.  Anyway, that is when they clarified the rules on it. Sort of like when Herman Schaefer stole first base to facilitate a double steal, so they made the rule, "Thy shalt not steal 1st base."  

prannyman

There is a situation where you would want to promote to a pawn, which is to make a stalemate trap.