Queen vs 2 Rooks

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ZBlackwingZ
As the title says, which pieces are better and in what situations are they better?
FortunaMajor

Position would be equal in an open board (with only the above pieces and kings) if the rooks are doubled. If there are pawns, however, sometimes, the rooks kinda get an advantage. I had the same question a year ago. The Queen's mobilty would be counteracted by the rooks' control over more squares (if they're doubled).

Karfusu

All else being equal, it seems like the player with two rooks would be at an advantage.  They together can control far more space than a lone queen.  Makes it easier to support advancing pawns too if this was an endgame scenario.  

LM_player
In most cases a queen would be better.
jonesmikechess

The more pawns there are, the more advantage the queen has.  Its greater mobility allows for more fork opportunities.  However, the two rooks can apply more pressure, that is they can bring two piece attacking while the queen can only protect once.

The rule of thumb I use is that the more pieces is better.  If the pawns are protected, I would rather have a rook and minor piece than a queen.

macer75

A better question is

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/rook-or-2-queens

friedmelon

2 rooks are better.

1. 2 rooks worth more points.

2. the queen is easy to get pinned skewer.png

3. 2 rooks are easy to handle

AutisticCath

1 rook is usually better than two queens.

AutisticCath

1 rook is usually better than two queens.

Heichoux

It depends on the situation, like you said.  If you have the two rooks, get them as active as possible and attack.  Open the board and try to overload the queen, she can't defend against both rooks.  If you have the queen, make sure the rooks can not get coordinated.  Keep the files closed and start picking off pawns.

In short: activity decides the game in rook and rook vs queen.

SmithyQ

The lower your rating, the more powerful the Queen is.  Lower-rated players struggle with coordination, but they can use one piece to good effect.  The Queen can check, picking up pawns and even pieces with ease against a weak defence.

The stronger your rating and the more you understand coordination, the stronger the Rooks become.  If you can coordinate your Rooks, the Queen often cannot defend.  You generally need more than just two Rooks to force a win, though.

In this position, we can see the power of the two Rooks.  They are attacking everything, and Black cannot defend his Queenside pawns.  If Black tries to defend his f-pawn, then his Queen is stuck defending the rest of the game.  Notice how none of White's kingside pawns are in any danger, and if Black tries to grab White's Queenside pawns, then White can do the same while also pressuring the Kingside.

If you cannot coordinate your Rooks like above, then the Queen may have the advantage.  The Queen can also potentially use perpetual checks to force a draw, something Rooks have a much harder time trying.  All other things being equal, I generally pick two Rooks.

universityofpawns

The rooks are supposed to be a little better, but you have to know how to use them, they must be kept together.....in most positions anyways.

FortunaMajor

 It's all a matter of coordination and organization. It's true what they say: "Unity is Strength."

MickinMD

In World Champ Jose Capablanca's book Chess Fundamentals - the origin of the "Reinfeld Values" for the pieces - he writes:

Two Rooks are slightly stronger than a Queen. They are slightly weaker than two Knights and a Bishop, and a little more so than two Bishops and a Knight. The power of the Knight decreases as the pieces are
changed off. The power of the Rook, on the contrary, increases.

macer75
MickinMD wrote:

In World Champ Jose Capablanca's book Chess Fundamentals - the origin of the "Reinfeld Values" for the pieces - he writes:

Two Rooks are slightly stronger than a Queen. They are slightly weaker than two Knights and a Bishop, and a little more so than two Bishops and a Knight. The power of the Knight decreases as the pieces are
changed off. The power of the Rook, on the contrary, increases.

I'm not sure about that.

Eoin-MacLove

In the above diagram, black goes Qe4 + for a share of the points.

rocknmetalforever45

In all games I've played with 2 rooks against the queen I lost easily since my rooks weren't connected, I didn't have time to do so. The queen is a very powerful piece, and if you fail to connect the rooks and it's the opponent's move you're most likely doomed. Also, the queen is generally stronger in many positions against 2 rooks, especially with many pawns. So, if the rooks are connected and well positioned (in rare cases) 2 rooks are better. In most cases the queen destroys them. Even when my rooks were connected sometimes I couldn't have done anything with them and I got destroyed. It's very hard to position them well as well. So I would pick a queen, except for rare cases.

TRACKER4

Here is a game in daily matches in which even with Queen against rook I couldn't win,all are requested to make their comments as to where did I go wrong.

https://www.chess.com/daily/game/263332940

Snake_2013

idk what to say

oI0Io
Snake_2013 wrote:

idk what to say

Then why did you comment?