Question about Soviet notation

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_heather_

Apologies if this has come up before; I searched but didn't find anything.  Looking at game records in old Soviet magazines, I've been a bit puzzled by some of the notation used for certain moves, and Chessbase doesn't seem to understand it, either.  It's basically algebraic notation as I understand it, but there are certain moves that I can't figure out -- they appear to indicate two files without saying anything about ranks or pieces involved.  For example, in the game record below, I've made the moves that I'm confused about (4. ed ... and 6. ... cd) bold.

1.  e4 c5
2.  Кe2 Кf6
3.  Кbc3 d5
4.  ed К:d5
5.  К:d5 Ф:d5
6.  d4 cd
7.  Ф:d4 Ф:d4

If anyone familiar with old Soviet chess notation wouldn't mind clearing things up for me, I'd greatly appreciate it -- thanks in advance!

Ben_Dubuque

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_heather_

I wondered if that might be it!  Thanks greatly.

_heather_

It makes perfect sense now that I see what's going on.  I like the use of colons for captures, too. 

Like I said, Chessbase didn't seen to know what to make of it (and this was after I'd translated the abbreviations for the pieces and replaced the colons with xs).  Translating those moves into something that it can understand is going to take more than a find/replace function, unfortunately, unless there's a way to get it to read this style of notation. 

Joseph-S
_heather_ wrote:

Apologies if this has come up before; I searched but didn't find anything.  Looking at game records in old Soviet magazines, I've been a bit puzzled by some of the notation used for certain moves, and Chessbase doesn't seem to understand it, either.  It's basically algebraic notation as I understand it, but there are certain moves that I can't figure out -- they appear to indicate two files without saying anything about ranks or pieces involved.  For example, in the game record below, I've made the moves that I'm confused about (4. ed ... and 6. ... cd) bold.

1.  e4 c5
2.  Кe2 ...

If anyone familiar with old Soviet chess notation wouldn't mind clearing things up for me, I'd greatly appreciate it -- thanks in advance!


 I never would have guessed that they play the Bongcloud in Russia!

theoreticalboy

This must have been the last Russian Bongcloud: that anti-Bongcloud King to f6 move looks pretty fierce....

_heather_
Joseph-S wrote:

 I never would have guessed, that they play the Bongcloud in Russia!


In Soviet Russia, Bongcloud play you.

oMirza

This is all about alphabet,same as in my country.

Example : Bh3 = Sh3   (Bishop = Skakac < my language)

In Russia using Cyrillicum alphabet.

timeano

Wow, I can't believe noboby answered this one... hope this answer still helps someone...

 

This "cd" or "ed" means a capture of a pawn by a pawn, so your original game:

1.  e4 c5
2.  Кe2 Кf6
3.  Кbc3 d5
4.  ed К:d5 
5.  К:d5 Ф:d5
6.  d4 cd
7.  Ф:d4 Ф:d4


Is translated into english-language notation as:

1.  e4 c5
2.  Ne2 Nf6
3.  Nbc3 d5
4.  exd5 Nxd5 
5.  Nxd5 Qxd5
6.  d4 cxd4
7.  Qxd4 Qxd4

Interesting old way of playing the Keres Sicilian, right? :)

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