Question for players who play fast in longer time control games- why do you do it?

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NightsHeron

I see it all the time on the net. Some players play, for example, a 15 minute game with a 10 second increment, and they finish the game with more time than what they started with! I've heard players doing this even in OTB tournaments- games that could go on for hours on end.

Is it because you are perhaps too impulsive? Can't be bothered to really think? (And if so, why not just play bullet?). Or do you like to just use your gut? Is it also a bit an ego thing, as in, "I can beat this guy even if I don't think at all!". Or is it also a part of your strategy, you want to get your opponent in time trouble? 

So what would you say that is the main reason why you play so quick? And if it is impulsivity (or anxiety) are you usually like that, in other areas of your life too, or only when it comes to chess? 

Also, when you are playing a game, are you really interested in WINNING, does it hurt you to lose a game? Or are you just like playing chess for fun and maybe not really caring about the game in a way?

I hope that my questions made sense, please feel free to add more details about your mindset. Thanks for reading and I am eager to hear your replies and discussion. 

lostpawn247

It depends on the position. When I'm familiar with the opening or position, I'll move quickly to conserve my time for a more critical point in the game. I consider myself a competitive person but I've lost enough games to get used to being disappointed. I'm not going to make a living off of playing chess so each loss is a learning experience... not the end of the world.

najdorf96

Indeed. I agree with Lostpawn; for me, it's mostly in the opening I play faster. Familiar set ups of course one plays intuitively (come what may) and therefore it's not soo much as impulsively, but more decisively. With an utter conviction (especially as white) to keep the intiative. Sort of give n take relationship. Like, what you got baby?! Heh. Anyways, as one gains experience, you'll pretty much know. Cool

Martin_Stahl

Having more time than you started with happens a lot in increment games, even in OTB rated chess. Some people just play fast, all the time.

Martin_Stahl

It happens OTB. While I can't say it happens at all tourneys with increment, it happens and you get people that have over 70% of their time remaining at the end of the game a lot too.

 

Some people just play fast.

Chessflyfisher

Children tend to do that a lot--it`s in their nature regardless of ability. Older people tend to do it out of blatant stupidity.

Martin_Stahl
CoffeeAnd420 wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:

It happens OTB. While I can't say it happens at all tourneys with increment, it happens and you get people that have over 70% of their time remaining at the end of the game a lot too.

 

Some people just play fast.

 

Well, if the guy plays that much faster than I, I might as well not even play. Not when the USCF doesn't even use increment today. Whoever moves faster = wins. That's not chess.

 

What time control gets used is up to organizers. The USCF doesn't mandate time controls.

Martin_Stahl

It all depends on the area. As I posted in another topic, on two-day events I run, my preferred time control is G/90+30. Most two-day events in drivable distance from me, are similar in length.

 

One-day events are usually faster. I tend to do G/60,d5 though I have been hosting one quicker event that is dual rated, mainly due to site hours.

 

Organizers run what they think will work best. If there is enough demand for longer time controls in a given area, someone will likely run it. If not, it is easy to get a TD license and an affiliate, so there's no excuse wink.png

Martin_Stahl

I'm in the middle of the country, in Missouri.

 

There are a lot of clubs that probably play their weekly rated games at quicker time controls, but most weekend events that I see, in my region, are longer time controls.

 

In places where site availability is hard to come by, or expensive, I could see it being a bit harder, but I can't imagine you wouldn't be able to find long time control events in the NYC area. They might not be every week but there is probably at least a few a year, likely more.

dpnorman

Everyone is different. Of course it happens in long time controls. At the end of the day everyone's going to blitz out their prep so if you're prepped you're likely to belt out a lot of moves quickly. Furthermore if you've got a lot of experience in the positions you can make thematic moves or calculate the necessary variations quickly. 

IJELLYBEANS

Well, if they are moving quickly in the opening, that is perfectly reasonable, as one wants to receive a beneficial middlegame, with adequate time to calculate and reason effectively. As for those who do so at the critical point of winning by perhaps a tad bit in terms of tactical and positional, they are presumably wishing to be ostentatious about their gameplay quality, what with the inevitable surge of ego. More times than not, they lose this game, on the basis of psychology, as they tend to be blitzing out moves while their opponent is warily deciding what move to play next. Howbeit, there are blatantly discrepancies with such a statement, yet it is a partial elucidation in correspondence with those players that do perform as the generalisation alludes to.

Verbeena

When i played too fast it was because i haven't learned proper time management. Or i have played tons of blitz and got a bad habit of moving fast, even in slower time controls. Sometimes i encounter people who play 15 | 10 game like it was 3 | 2 blitz - i usually beat them. Once in a while i lose to "fast players" although i am using my time well. In those cases, they were simply much stronger than me.

ShaoniHiya

Hmmm

52yrral

Says the cat.

shivank2005

idk man .  I m real, what should i do on the 1st move of the game , answer think for 24 hours. The reason maybe there is just no move to think and it may be SIMPLE to just play. ty

Vuotto

such a cat thing to say happy.png,  but regarding "increments" any game where the rules are set up in advance and both sides agree, by definition can't be cheating, not saying you have to play it or need to like it.
Hyperbole undercuts any argument you make . 

pinkuakahana

I think the biggest reason is that using your time efficiently is an acquired skill just as learning tactics is.

When you are not as strong, you do not know as much, and thus, you do not have as much to think about. As you acquire more overall chess skill, you have more to think about, and thus, you spend more time thinking. It is also a matter of practice. The more practiced you are, the better you are at time management.

Also, there is another factor, and that is the proliferation of kids in chess.

 

And one of the reasons I often see is fear of time trouble. Many amateurs are not really aware of whether the time they have left will "be enough", so start to move way too fast early on. They won't feel confident to play faster games either for that same reason.

It could be the case that your opponents are using your time to think if you take too much time, so when it's their turn they've already anticipated your move and figured out how to answer.

hisokaxhunter

time just a rule on board, whether to play fast or slow depend on opponent, as a player we should get prepare to face any kind of type and style of opponent. as long as they opponent didn't harassing others by saying "move fast bimbo, play like a monkey". I think u just met this kind of opponent chump.... that's why u look so mad

IJELLYBEANS
52yrral wrote:

Says the cat.

 

Goodness! What is all this vitriol against an innocuous cat? For all we may know, it could very well be the GHZ state. No time for entangled systems with three subsystems? Well, enter Schrodinger.

Verbeena

I hate losing in rapid time controls against a bullet player, it makes me feel completely crushed. Got beaten twice by a player who had more time on his clock at the end of the game than what he begun with and he played more accurately than me, who was using my time properly!