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I am wondering if there's a general consensus as to relationship between your score and what status of a player you are. I.e. My score is 618 which leaves me at a beginner. What score would I have to achieve to be considered intermediate, and so on?
I'd consider myself advanced beginner (1750). Intermediate is about 2000.
2DollarCabernet wrote:
I am wondering if there's a general consensus as to relationship between your score and what status of a player you are. I.e. My score is 618 which leaves me at a beginner. What score would I have to achieve to be considered intermediate, and so on?
Thre is of course a relationship. That is why the ratings were created.
The ratings and levels are indicated here for chess.com.
https://www.chess.com/article/view/study-plan-directory
I think in fide begginers are like <1400
indermediates are like 1400 - 2000
Expert level is like 2000 - 2200
Master is 2200+.
candy_anyone wrote:
This is how different levels could be described:
<1500: Pre-chess-player level. Learning how to move pieces around, how much pieces are worth etc., trying to be chess players. Have never attended a serious chess tournament.
1500-1900: Rookie chess players. Learning not too make tactical blunders, learning basic endgames and openings. Getting their first tournament experiences. They mainly learn chess by playing and watching.
1900-2300: Intemediate chess players. Have a decent understanding of opening, middlegame and endgame. Do not make huge bluders in slow chess anymore, but they still lack precision and a good strategy in certain positions. Mainly learn chess from books. Can win small local tournaments, can teach chess. Some hold fake master titles like NM and CM.
2300-2650 Master level. Very accurate play in slow chess and a good understaning of a large variety of different positions. Have a chance to win international tournaments. Can represent smaller countries in international championships. Can be female or old.
2650-2900 Professional level. They are (almost exclusively) between 18-45 years old males and they got their GM title when they were 15. Chess is their job and they are paid for it. Represent strongest countries in international championships, are among the best players on any international tournament they attend.
2900-3500 Computer level, correspondence chess. Can give human world champion a pawn odds and still beat him.
3500+ Endgame tablebases, god. There are no "white is better" or "black is better" positions anymore. It can only be "white mates in n moves", "black mates in n moves" or "it is a draw". It is theoretically impossible to beat it and it can find crazy combinations like a completely unintuitive mate in 500 moves. http://tb7.chessok.com/articles/Top8DTM_eng
I know lots of <1500 that still have yet to learn how a rook moves too!
Aug 18, 2016
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Depends on your goals, your current rating, and who you associate with. I've heard top 10 players dismiss lower 2700 rated players as not knowing how to play, or just being good at openings and tactics, so keep that in mind when reading people's opinions.
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I think of novice level as beginner (sub 1000) to someone who has experience plus very little learning. Maybe has read a book, watched a video, done a tactics puzzle... maybe has not done any of those things. With nothing other than playing, it's rare to see someone above 1200-1300.
So I think of over 1300 as starting to be club level. This person has probably received instruction from somewhere, studied on their own, played much stronger players, etc. Average adult club player (according to the bell curve, not feelings) is something about 1500-1600. Sometimes these people have years of experience and learned many things... but are not complete players (maybe they've never bothered to learn any openings or endgames or something like this).
As odd as it may sound to a beginner, up to 1900 or 2000 it really is just consolidating the basics... don't blunder, always conceptualize the position and form a plan (even if it's not a great plan these players can still organize all their pieces around an idea), don't have any big gaps in your knowledge (you're familiar with openings, endgames, sacrifices, defense, etc). One quote is that between players under 1900, the winner will be the better analyst (don't screw up your calculation, work hard to find good moves for the opponent, things like that).
I feel like 2000-2299 is sort of in between. You're not quite a FIDE master, but you're much better than all those class players.
After that is FIDE titles.
Aug 18, 2016
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Candy-anyone wrote;
This is how different levels could be described:
<1500: Pre-chess-player level. Learning how to move pieces around, how much pieces are worth etc., trying to be chess players. Have never attended a serious chess tournament.
1500-1900: Rookie chess players. Learning not too make tactical blunders, learning basic endgames and openings. Getting their first tournament experiences. They mainly learn chess by playing and watching.
1900-2300: Intemediate chess players. Have a decent understanding of opening, middlegame and endgame. Do not make huge bluders in slow chess anymore, but they still lack precision and a good strategy in certain positions. Mainly learn chess from books. Can win small local tournaments, can teach chess. Some hold fake master titles like NM and CM.
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1900-2300 intermediate players??? ....flr you a 2250 is internediate player?!?
1500 players "can move piece around and understand a worth piece"???
for you a 1800 in blitz is only a player that know some basic openings?!?
candy, are you serious??
a 1500 player can play very nice....don't move only the pieces around.
for me.
<1300 beginner
1300-1700 medium players
1700-2000 good players
2000-2200 very very good players
2200+ very important players.
Aug 18, 2016
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0110001101101000 wrote:
Depends on your goals, your current rating, and who you associate with. I've heard top 10 players dismiss lower 2700 rated players as not knowing how to play, or just being good at openings and tactics, so keep that in mind when reading people's opinions.
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I think of novice level as beginner (sub 1000) to someone who has experience plus very little learning. Maybe has read a book, watched a video, done a tactics puzzle... maybe has not done any of those things. With nothing other than playing, it's rare to see someone above 1200-1300.
So I think of over 1300 as starting to be club level. This person has probably received instruction from somewhere, studied on their own, played much stronger players, etc. Average adult club player (according to the bell curve, not feelings) is something about 1500-1600. Sometimes these people have years of experience and learned many things... but are not complete players (maybe they've never bothered to learn any openings or endgames or something like this).
As odd as it may sound to a beginner, up to 1900 or 2000 it really is just consolidating the basics... don't blunder, always conceptualize the position and form a plan (even if it's not a great plan these players can still organize all their pieces around an idea), don't have any big gaps in your knowledge (you're familiar with openings, endgames, sacrifices, defense, etc). One quote is that between players under 1900, the winner will be the better analyst (don't screw up your calculation, work hard to find good moves for the opponent, things like that).
I feel like 2000-2299 is sort of in between. You're not quite a FIDE master, but you're much better than all those class players.
After that is FIDE titles.
i totally agree.
at 1500 is the real intermediate player, at 2200 you are a Fide Master.....not an intermediate player.
Aug 18, 2016
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candy_anyone wrote:
<1500: Pre-chess-player level. Learning how to move pieces around, how much pieces are worth etc., trying to be chess players. Have never attended a serious chess tournament.
1500-1900: Rookie chess players. Learning not too make tactical blunders, learning basic endgames and openings. Getting their first tournament experiences. They mainly learn chess by playing and watching.
Eh, these two are a bit off. It takes at least a year for any player to go from a real beginner (didn't know how the pieces moved last week) to 1500. This is like saying it takes 10 minutes of instruction to learn everything a 1500 knows which is just silly.
And 1500-1900 learn by playing and watching? Playing and watching??
Club players in this range have definitely made use of analyzing their games, reading books, doing puzzles, etc. Maybe not consistently, but they've done more than just play a few games...
Aug 18, 2016
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#10
i not wrote that 2200 is the highest rank in my scale....
i wrote that from 2200 you are a very important player.
a question;
for FIDE rules ....a 2200 player...is a CM? the answare is yes.
and for me, a CM is a very important player....not a fenomenal player like GM, but is a TITLED player, is not an intermediate player like you wrote.
Fide federation tell this... not Fabio.
I think you're wrong about what a scale should be based off of.
A scale should be based off of your average everyday player, not the GMs in an international tournament.
In this respect the normal scale of 1000-1400 = beginner, 1400-1800 = intermediate, 1800-2000 = advanced, 2000-2200 = expert, 2200+ = master is fine.
Nothing outside that range matters, as 1000 is basically where chess starts, and players above 2200 have their own precise system of titles and stuff that explains "where they are".
Aug 18, 2016
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chesster3145 wrote:
I think you're wrong about what a scale should be based off of.
A scale should be based off of your average everyday player, not the GMs in an international tournament.
In this respect the normal scale of 1000-1400 = beginner, 1400-1800 = intermediate, 1800-2000 = advanced, 2000-2200 = expert, 2200+ = master is fine.
Nothing outside that range matters, as 1000 is basically where chess starts, and players above 2200 have their own precise system of titles and stuff that explains "where they are".
exactly.....depend what scale you mean.
if you compare a 2200 player with Kasparov....a 2200 is a intermediate player....
but if you compare a 2200 player with all the players around the world....a 2200 is not only an intermediate, i think that a 2200 player have a 99 percentile......infact...a 2200 is a Fide CM.
Aug 18, 2016
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#13
Other than thinking in terms of amateur and professional, ~99% of tournaments players are below 2200.
If you're looking to climb the professional ranks, then your world becomes that 1% and now for you beginners are 2200 (in the past you couldn't get a FIDE rating lower than this IIRC). But when a new player is asking it's probably correct to focus on the 99%.
May 5, 2020
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OFFICIAL RATINGS
1000 - 1300 Beginner
1300 - 1600 Intermediate
1600 - 1900 Advanced
1900 - 2200 Expert
2200+ Master
