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Review of Pawn Sacrifice
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JamieDelarosa wrote:
robbie_1969 wrote:
Woa JamieDelarosa you freerider to breenge in here and posting links to your own thread, gee I dunno - kids these days! You must have Scottish blood running through those veins to try and get away with that! :P
Wow so even the movies errors has errors.
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Sep 28, 2015
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#25
Just got out of the film. The big things were done well, making it easy to overlook little errors. Then, game 6. The movie failed to establish that Bobby always played e4 (P-K4) as white. They correctly showed c4 (P-KB4), but then said that he had abandoned the Sicilian defense. That error very nearly ruined the movie for me.
Saw it. Liked it. Will take "Searching for Bobby Fischer" over it anyday.
Sep 28, 2015
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Ziryab wrote:
Just got out of the film. The big things were done well, making it easy to overlook little errors. Then, game 6. The movie failed to establish that Bobby always played e4 (P-K4) as white. They correctly showed c4 (P-KB4), but then said that he had abandoned the Sicilian defense. That error very nearly ruined the movie for me.
Wow...just wow...how on earth could you have any chess consultant miss that black initiates the Sicilian?!
Sep 28, 2015
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#28
I could see it again, and will if I can convince my wife to go. It was a good drama that captured the heart of Fischer's moment. The soundtrack was excellent. One moment in particular Fischer was listening to religious tapes and "White Rabbit" by Jefferson Airplane was playing over the top. Fischer was not eating mushrooms but his mind was affected by something as well-designed to induce hallucinations. It was a brilliant juxtaposition that made me want to cheer. But mixing up a Queen's Pawn opening out of the English with the Sicilian Defense made me want to scream.
I forgot if they said so in the movie or not, but they could have used the real life drama of the opening going into a tartakower QGD, a defense with which Spassky had no losses! An opening which Fischer had no match experience! And Fischer wins! That plays right into the storyline of overwhelming genius.
trysts wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
Just got out of the film. The big things were done well, making it easy to overlook little errors. Then, game 6. The movie failed to establish that Bobby always played e4 (P-K4) as white. They correctly showed c4 (P-KB4), but then said that he had abandoned the Sicilian defense. That error very nearly ruined the movie for me.
Wow...just wow...how on earth could you have any chess consultant miss that black initiates the Sicilian?!
Was Danny Rensch the consultant on this film like that horrible turd of a movie Life of a King?
Ziryab wrote:
I could see it again, and will if I can convince my wife to go. It was a good drama that captured the heart of Fischer's moment. The soundtrack was excellent. One moment in particular Fischer was listening to religious tapes and "White Rabbit" by Jefferson Airplane was playing over the top. Fischer was not eating mushrooms but his mind was affected by something as well-designed to induce hallucinations. It was a brilliant juxtaposition that made me want to cheer. But mixing up a Queen's Pawn opening out of the English with the Sicilian Defense made me want to scream.
I just puked in my mouth a litte reading that.
To be fair, the consultant may have said something like "Spassky was well prepared in lines of the Sicilian defense, and Fischer avoided his prep with 1.c4"
And they heard "Spassky was prepared for Fischer's Sicilian defense, and instead of playing a Sicilian, Fischer played 1.c4"
Sep 28, 2015
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#33
DrinkingLikeTal wrote:
Was Danny Rensch the consultant on this film like that horrible turd of a movie Life of a King?
"Richard Bérubé of the Quebec Chess Federation (La Fédération Québecoise des Échecs) was the chess consultant on the film."
http://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/pawn-sacrifice/
If making a movie is anything like where I work outside consultants are only there to be ignored and looked down on so I would not be surprised if the film makers ignored everything Richard told them.
Sep 28, 2015
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#35
DrinkingLikeTal wrote:
If making a movie is anything like where I work outside consultants are only there to be ignored and looked down on so I would not be surprised if the film makers ignored everything Richard told them.
You could be right, I shouldn't have blamed it on the chess consultant
Sep 28, 2015
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#36
I am sure the movie is fun to watch but the intentional historical inaccuracies are so blatant that I simply don't see the point of the film anymore. There is absolutely no reason to create fictional accounts about Fischer, people around him, or inventing non existent characters. What is the point of the film if it is essentially fiction? It is just dumb and disrespectful to not only Fischer but all people who were involved with him in history and events shown in the film.
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Sep 28, 2015
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#38
robbie_1969 wrote:
Originally posted on another chess site which it is unlawful to mention here, I thought that those on chess dot com might be interested in reading the review for themselves. Thanks to GP for bringing it to our attention.
[snip]
Carmine Nigro who was Bobby's first and only teacher was not one of
the top 25 rated players in the country. He was a Class B player but did
not have an official rating. The movie depicts him as being with Bobby
all the way from the beginning in about 1949 to the Fischer Spassky
Match in Reykjavik Iceland in 1972. In reality, Carmine Nigro had only a
brief relationship with Fischer lasting only a few years at most.
[snip]
Sam Sloan
In the film, Nigro claims to be the 25th best player in New York City. That's probably consistent with B Class in the 1950s.
In most of the scenes where he appears, he is watching games from a distance. Sloan is likely correct that this frequent presence is an exaggeration.
Sep 28, 2015
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#39
NativeChessMinerals wrote:
I forgot if they said so in the movie or not, but they could have used the real life drama of the opening going into a tartakower QGD, a defense with which Spassky had no losses! An opening which Fischer had no match experience! And Fischer wins! That plays right into the storyline of overwhelming genius.
They missed an opportunity in this case. The truth is a better story than what they presented.
They showed the correct moves, but the voice over--presented as news clips--told an entirely different story than was shown on the chess board.
Sep 28, 2015
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#40
I just reviewed some history concerning the 1966 Piatigorsky Cup because I was shocked when the film decribed Spassky as the World Champion at the time of the event.
The film got almost everything else wrong too. Fischer lost to Spassky in round six. The film makes it the final round.
It was a double round robin and the world champion--Petrosian--played, but finished tied with Reshevsky for sixth.
Fischer finished second, 1/2 point behind Spassky. The movie had his second place finish correct.
Woa JamieDelarosa you freerider to breenge in here and posting links to your own thread, gee I dunno - kids these days! You must have Scottish blood running through those veins to try and get away with that! :P
Wow so even the movies errors has errors.
Robbie, mah loon, ye ur welcome in mah blog onytime.