Rules re Asking for Resignation

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Chicken_Monster

Is it against chess.com rules to politely ask your opponent to please resign a game when they are clearly going to lose? I realize you can't force them, but can you nicely ask them?

If not, I would love to see a link to the rules stating this.

Commander_Riker

No it is not against the rules.

If they refuse of course is their right and maybe very frustrating as most good players can see a lost position and do the sportsman thing and resign.

That said I have seen and played a few where the opponent tries for the 50 move rule which in online chess can be forever but it is a legal chess strategy. Cheers & Good Luck

chess2Knights

Olympian 256 is right. You can find it in USCF rules under harrassment as well.

JamesColeman

The only thing you can be sure of, is asking your opponent to resign will lead to them resigning much later than they otherwise would have done, if they would indeed even resign at all after you decided to ask them.

Commander_Riker

I have never asked a player to resign although I have felt like asking what the heck are you thinking but always just play to the very end unless I can't even see a draw for myself then I will resign. I personally do not see anything wrong if the opponent has an obviously lost position to politely ask if they would end it now or play it out. It would not be against any TOS rules but to ask over and over again would be considered harassment.

leiph18

One game I had been defending for many moves. After I made some errors it went into an objectively lost endgame. I was frustrated and made another move.

My opponent messaged me "sorry, maybe there was a draw there somewhere" and I resigned right away.

You can't force people to resign, but there are ways of making it more likely. Asking them to resign is probably one of the least successful.

ozzie_c_cobblepot

hey, I like that. File "sorry, maybe there was a draw there somewhere" under the good idea of the day.

Truth be told, at least in my line of work, "objectively lost endgame" usually still requires some technique.

leiph18

I may have been generous in my description lol. There were some chances before, but at that point it was clearly +-  I knew it was time to resign, and the nice message made it easy for me.

Commander_Riker
mathgenius1157 wrote:

I HATE when my opponent asks me to resign a game. When they do that, I won't resign the game, even if it turns out to be a BNK v K endgame. So yeah... don't ask your opponent to resign

I actually agree with you and think it is rude to ask a player to resign but that wasn't the Question. If Rude was against the rules there would be a whole lot more account closures here :) Cheers

Chicken_Monster

I just wanted to make sure I wasn't violating any rules before I asked. I would not harass a person and keep asking over and over. It is their right to continue and practice the endgame. I think a lot of it is in the presentation. Perhaps, "I think I have this game. Are you willing to resign at this point?" Something like that. Thanks.

ButWhereIsTheHorse

They would see that comment as an insult clearly atleast i would 

chess2Knights

Well it is against USCF rules and opponent on here could consider it harassment. Not sure how chess.com would rule on it.

Chicken_Monster

This is not the USCF or FIDE. I will abide by their rules only when playing in their tournaments. In my opinion, if you were to take that as an insult, they way I proposed to ask, I would take your taking that as an insult, as an insult. We can file cross-complaints to chess.com.

Disgruntled_Sheep
Commander_Riker wrote:

If Rude was against the rules there would be a whole lot more account closures here :)

Haha, this is the truest thing I have ever read on these forums!

Mottley
Chicken_Monster wrote:

Is it against chess.com rules to politely ask your opponent to please resign a game when they are clearly going to lose? I realize you can't force them, but can you nicely ask them?

If not, I would love to see a link to the rules stating this.

there many 'I never resign' players who are just plain annoying!

chess2Knights

By right Chicken no conversation is to be conducted during a game. Laws of chess. Except to offer draw or adjust pcs. Laws of chess. Chat on here is only to make it a social site. Not sure if asking to resign considered harassment on here but the cross complaint is laughable.

chess2Knights

Remember also you could be asking opponent to  resign while losing if you do not know what you are doing. Not directed to first poster here but players in general.

chess2Knights

Why not ask staff rather than make a forum.

Chicken_Monster

I get it. USCF is a totally different type of venue. You can also speak during a game in order to call over a TD if you think a mistake has been made. Play is stopped and the TD renders a decision from what I understand. I read a few rules, although I haven't played in a USCF tourney yet.

I think it is laughable if someone could potentially get into trouble on this site for politely asking someone to resign, considering that it is NOT against the rules of the site. I doubt anyone would get into trouble for it, if they asked politely...but you never know. If someone is offended by that, then they could easily be offended by just about anything...and someone could be offended by a player not resigning when etiquette deems it appropriate. You know how that feels, Henry.

Commander_Riker
chess2Knights wrote:

By right Chicken no conversation is to be conducted during a game. Laws of chess. Except to offer draw or adjust pcs. Laws of chess. Chat on here is only to make it a social site. Not sure if asking to resign considered harassment on here but the cross complaint is laughable.

In Correspondence Chess (Online Chess) with the built in Chat window is encouraging discussion during the game (It can be disabled). The normal OTB rules do not apply to online chess in many ways.

Come on everybody lets use some common sense here. Would you really submit a ticket to support and tie up a staff member to ask if you can ask another player to resign.

There is no rule about not asking a player to resign.

It is common courtesy to let your opponent make you mate them after all that is the real end to the game of chess. Resigning is giving up. Higher rated players do not want to be bothered trying to play out a lost position when we can just take our loss and move on. I'm not here to just move pieces around the board while being chased.

Lets just use some common sense here and treat your opponent like you would like to be treated, We sure don't need a staff member to tell us this :) Cheers and Good Chess

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