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DrFrank124c

I have been trying to download SCID in an old computer but get error messages. The compputer is 32 bit and is running Windows 7. The download on Source Forge seems to be 64 bit. Does anyone know where I can get a 32 bit version of SCID?

EscherehcsE
DrFrank124c wrote:

I have been trying to download SCID in an old computer but get error messages. The compputer is 32 bit and is running Windows 7. The download on Source Forge seems to be 64 bit. Does anyone know where I can get a 32 bit version of SCID?

Yep, it looks like the latest version (4.7) is 64-bit only. Maybe you could use the older 32-bit version 4.6.2?

Scid 4.6.2 32-bit

P.S. - I hope you're aware that running Windows 7 on the interwebz is getting sort of risky these days? (Security patches for Win 7 stopped last January.)

DrFrank124c
EscherehcsE wrote:
DrFrank124c wrote:

I have been trying to download SCID in an old computer but get error messages. The compputer is 32 bit and is running Windows 7. The download on Source Forge seems to be 64 bit. Does anyone know where I can get a 32 bit version of SCID?

Yep, it looks like the latest version (4.7) is 64-bit only. Maybe you could use the older 32-bit version 4.6.2?

Scid 4.6.2 32-bit

P.S. - I hope you're aware that running Windows 7 on the interwebz is getting sort of risky these days? (Security patches for Win 7 stopped last January.)

 

DrFrank124c

Thanx 4 the help, I'll give it a try. As for running win7, I am aware I'm taking a risk. But this is an old computer and win10 crashes it. I am using Firefox and a good antivirus program so it should work ok. I may switch over to Linux if there is any trouble. But I have been running the computer this way for a while and have found that so far it is working. Win7 runs really good if you delete the visual effects. And Firefox automatically goes to Cloudflare DNS and it really does run faster.

DrFrank124c
DrFrank124c wrote:

Thanx 4 the help, I'll give it a try. As for running win7, I am aware I'm taking a risk. But this is an old computer and win10 crashes it. I am using Firefox and a good antivirus program so it should work ok. I may switch over to Linux if there is any trouble. But I have been running the computer this way for a while and have found that so far it is working. Win7 runs really good if you delete the visual effects. And Firefox automatically goes to Cloudflare DNS and it really does run faster

Thanx EscherehcsE, I just tried to 32 bit version and it does work. .Success!

EscherehcsE
DrFrank124c wrote:

Thanx 4 the help, I'll give it a try. As for running win7, I am aware I'm taking a risk. But this is an old computer and win10 crashes it. I am using Firefox and a good antivirus program so it should work ok. I may switch over to Linux if there is any trouble. But I have been running the computer this way for a while and have found that so far it is working. Win7 runs really good if you delete the visual effects. And Firefox automatically goes to Cloudflare DNS and it really does run faster.

Yeah, Win 10 is transitioning over to 64-bit only, so it doesn't surprise me that it doesn't like your hardware. Just remember that antivirus programs won't save you from many of the security vulnerabilities that aren't getting patched in Win 7. At the very minimum, I wouldn't use any credit cards or do any online banking on that machine. Remember, the best virus is the one that you never know you have. I'd also periodically make a good image backup of the system and keep the backup images physically disconnected from the network (ransomware concerns).

I went to Linux in January. My Win 7 is 64-bit, so I could have upgraded to Win 10 for free; However, imho, Win 10 is now a complete spying dumpster fire, and they can't even make a monthly patch without borking something. I wanted no part of it, hence my transition to Linux. There aren't as many chess GUIs and engines in Linux, so I'm doing less of that these days. (probably a healthy thing, anyway.) I kept Win 7 on one hard drive so I can boot to it if needed, but it never goes onto the internet.

Abhinav

True, I totally agree with @EscherehcsE. Installing Linux would be much better than still running win7. Personally I like Linux mint for low power pc's. 

Ubuntu is great for beginners

PopOS is Ubuntu for gamers

Mint looks much more like windows out of the box, and is easy to operate. 

I don't use any chess GUI's, Adobe stuff, or AutoCAD, so I haven't had any problems switching over to Linux. If you're comfortable doing some troubleshooting and your hardware is natively supported, then it's Linux all the way. 

EscherehcsE
Abhinav0121 wrote:

True, I totally agree with @EscherehcsE. Installing Linux would be much better than still running win7. Personally I like Linux mint for low power pc's. 

Ubuntu is great for beginners

PopOS is Ubuntu for gamers

Mint looks much more like windows out of the box, and is easy to operate. 

I don't use any chess GUI's, Adobe stuff, or AutoCAD, so I haven't had any problems switching over to Linux. If you're comfortable doing some troubleshooting and your hardware is natively supported, then it's Linux all the way. 

Except that his hardware is 32-bit. I think that eliminates the latest version of Mint, Ubuntu, and PopOS. Some Linux distros still offer 32-bit options, such as MX Linux, Lubuntu, and Peppermint OS. There are other 32-bit distros available - he'd have to do his research at places like Distrowatch.

Edit - Oh, I think LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition) also still offers 32-bit.

EscherehcsE

Oh, and the 32-bit issue aside, I'm anti "snap packages", so to me, Ubuntu is the Devil incarnate, lol. (Linux Mint is also anti-snaps, so I admire them for that.)

Abhinav

Well, that is sort of a bummer then. There's an old saying, " Linux is user-friendly, it's just picky about who it's friends are." 

It's really a smooth journey if the hardware's supported, otherwise it's basically hell. And yes, LMDE still has 32-bit support as it's based on Debian directly. Ultimately it's upto @DrFrank124c if he wants to switch over. There's lot of helpful stuff about Linux out on the internet, and whichever path you choose hope it turns out well for you. Au revoir! 

DrFrank124c
Abhinav0121 wrote:

Well, that is sort of a bummer then. There's an old saying, " Linux is user-friendly, it's just picky about who it's friends are." 

It's really a smooth journey if the hardware's supported, otherwise it's basically hell. And yes, LMDE still has 32-bit support as it's based on Debian directly. Ultimately it's upto @DrFrank124c if he wants to switch over. There's lot of helpful stuff about Linux out on the internet, and whichever path you choose hope it turns out well for you. Au revoir! 

I like Peppermint OS and was using it on this machine. Then I go tthe bright idea to dual boot with win 7 because I was having problems with my printer. But I did something wrong and all I could get working was win7. Then I found if I remove the visual effects win7 runs good. And my printer works well on it. So I've been doing that for a while and so far, so good. Firefox runs real fast on this set up because it uses cloudlflare. And then I threw in a free antivirus. For my uses, playing chess and watching videos it seems to be ok BTW .I am aware that there are a few machines out there that are still running XP.

EscherehcsE
DrFrank124c wrote:
Abhinav0121 wrote:

Well, that is sort of a bummer then. There's an old saying, " Linux is user-friendly, it's just picky about who it's friends are." 

It's really a smooth journey if the hardware's supported, otherwise it's basically hell. And yes, LMDE still has 32-bit support as it's based on Debian directly. Ultimately it's upto @DrFrank124c if he wants to switch over. There's lot of helpful stuff about Linux out on the internet, and whichever path you choose hope it turns out well for you. Au revoir! 

I like Peppermint OS and was using it on this machine. Then I go tthe bright idea to dual boot with win 7 because I was having problems with my printer. But I did something wrong and all I could get working was win7. Then I found if I remove the visual effects win7 runs good. And my printer works well on it. So I've been doing that for a while and so far, so good. Firefox runs real fast on this set up because it uses cloudlflare. And then I threw in a free antivirus. For my uses, playing chess and watching videos it seems to be ok BTW .I am aware that there are a few machines out there that are still running XP.

Is your PC a desktop or laptop? If it's a desktop, it would probably be simpler to buy a second hard drive and run Windows and Linux on the separate drives instead of dual booting off of one hard drive, which can sometimes be tricky. Windows often decides to blow away the Linux grub (bootloader), then Linux disappears. (Not sure if that's what happened to you.)

I'm not sure what the Win 7 visual effects are that you removed? (Nevermind, I did a little DuckDuckGo'ing, and I'm finding lots of documentation on the visual effects. I just never paid attention to that setting before.)

I was looking at the Windows usage stats just the other day. Of all Windows desktop machines, Win 10 is around 80%, Win 7 is around just under 20%, and Win XP is a little under 1%.

EscherehcsE

When I have to dual boot off of one hard drive, this is the method I like to use:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlTgaWs9BD0

 

EscherehcsE

"I like Peppermint OS and was using it on this machine. Then I go tthe bright idea to dual boot with win 7 because I was having problems with my printer. But I did something wrong and all I could get working was win7."

I wonder if the problem could have been that you installed Peppermint first, then you installed Win 7? The Peppermint install probably put grub in the MBR, then when you installed Win 7, it overwrote it's own bootloader over grub. Maybe if you tried to install Win 7 first, then Peppermint? (or try the nonconventional dual-boot method mentioned in my previous post).

Abhinav

"I was looking at the Windows usage stats just the other day. Of all Windows desktop machines, Win 10 is around 80%, Win 7 is around just under 20%, and Win XP is a little under 1%."

I really loved Win XP, I used it for a long long time. XP is quite old and finicky now, you can't even legitimately activate it anymore, I guess. Can use it only on the VM's or some old hardware. Best incarnation of windows released, for me atleast.

WinWorld still has a really great library of vintage OS's, games, and development tools if you ever wanna go down the memory lane. 

DrFrank124c
EscherehcsE wrote:

"I like Peppermint OS and was using it on this machine. Then I go tthe bright idea to dual boot with win 7 because I was having problems with my printer. But I did something wrong and all I could get working was win7."

I wonder if the problem could have been that you installed Peppermint first, then you installed Win 7? The Peppermint install probably put grub in the MBR, then when you installed Win 7, it overwrote it's own bootloader over grub. Maybe if you tried to install Win 7 first, then Peppermint? (or try the nonconventional dual-boot method mentioned in my previous post).

I had done dual booting in the past so I knew the best idea was to put in windows first. I don't know what I did wrong but this time it didn't work. I'm using a laptop and my plan is to wait awhile and purchasse another laptop and use one for windows and one for Linux.  Since the economy is crashing due to Iris the Virus, I figure I should soon be able to get a really good laptop real cheap. As long as the US gov doesn't crash I will be all right since I am getting SS. BTW just so we don't lose too many chessplayers, I suggest all chess,com players  take lysosomal vitamin c  which is an antiviral according to Dr. Mercola. Most people are not smart enough to read Dr. Mercola but chess players are smarter than average people. I don't want to wind up without players to play against now that I can't go to the chess clubs.

EscherehcsE
DrFrank124c wrote:
EscherehcsE wrote:

"I like Peppermint OS and was using it on this machine. Then I go tthe bright idea to dual boot with win 7 because I was having problems with my printer. But I did something wrong and all I could get working was win7."

I wonder if the problem could have been that you installed Peppermint first, then you installed Win 7? The Peppermint install probably put grub in the MBR, then when you installed Win 7, it overwrote it's own bootloader over grub. Maybe if you tried to install Win 7 first, then Peppermint? (or try the nonconventional dual-boot method mentioned in my previous post).

I had done dual booting in the past so I knew the best idea was to put in windows first. I don't know what I did wrong but this time it didn't work. I'm using a laptop and my plan is to wait awhile and purchasse another laptop and use one for windows and one for Linux.  Since the economy is crashing due to Iris the Virus, I figure I should soon be able to get a really good laptop real cheap. As long as the US gov doesn't crash I will be all right since I am getting SS. BTW just so we don't lose too many chessplayers, I suggest all chess,com players  take lysosomal vitamin c  which is an antiviral according to Dr. Mercola. Most people are not smart enough to read Dr. Mercola but chess players are smarter than average people. I don't want to wind up without players to play against now that I can't go to the chess clubs.

Two laptops - That's certainly one way to address the dual-boot problem! :-)

Dr. Mercola - When I first went keto, he was one of many who I watched/read during my research. I have a lot of respect for him. I don't think he's able to do a shallow dive into any topic (he's deep-dive all the way), and he's had quite a few fascinating interviewees over the years.