Shakespeare and Chess!

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SophieWildChild

LaughingWhich of Shakespeare's characters would have made the best chess player and why?

ivandh

Richard III was a cunning strategist but too greedy for material.

MacBeth would go on risky rampages with his queen.

Henry V plays foolish openings and blunders in the early endgame, though his middle-game performance is quite good.

SophieWildChild

Ok let me start...not King Lear, too senile , probably would confuse value of the pieces, not Macbeth cos he would let his wife tell him which moves to make( never a good idea, fellas!); I'm going for Cassius in Julius Caesar: a cunning, conniving ruthless son of a bitch who was quite cynical and manipulative; in short, an ideal chess player!

qixel

I think the only time chess appears on stage in Shakespeare is in The Tempest, so I'd have to say Miranda and Ferdinand.

ivandh

Oh what about the clergy at the beginning of Hank Cinq? They are willing to start a war to keep their revenues, surely they are cold-blooded and devious enough to make it big...

SophieWildChild

Mmmmmm Hamlet? Interesting suggestion...he did encapsulate so much sexual ambivalence in relation to the King and the Queen that he must be on a shortlist..

' Do you know me, sir?'

'You are a fishmonger.. 

Gil-Gandel

As I recall Othello ends with a famous instance of a smothered mate.

bigpoison
ivandh wrote:

Richard III was a cunning linguist.


SophieWildChild

And Othello also tell us that it's best to remember if you have got the white or black pieces and not to get them mixed up ( Oh my God, that sounds racist!) 

ilikeflags

i think this thread should be called edward de vere and chess.

elizabethlonehvid

I vote for Julius Cesar.

He would have tactics, strategy, patience and cunning.

bigpoison
ilikeflags wrote:

i think this thread should be called edward de vere and chess.


There's no way that one dude wrote all those plays and sonnets.  De Vere is the darling of conspiracy theorists.

Shakespeare, you see, had a split personality so he was able to do twice as much work as any ordinary man.

ivandh
bigpoison wrote:
ivandh wrote:

Richard III was a cunning linguist.



I suppose that's how Anne was able to put up with him then..

ilikeflags
bigpoison wrote:
ilikeflags wrote:

i think this thread should be called edward de vere and chess.


There's no way that one dude wrote all those plays and sonnets.  De Vere is the darling of conspiracy theorists.

Shakespeare, you see, had a split personality so he was able to do twice as much work as any ordinary man.


have you seen they've made a movie about ol' de vere?  haha...  he's finally getting his due!  haha...  half of middle america is gonna walk out of the cinema with a new shakespeare.  grapple, line, and sinker.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBmnkk0QW3Q

(can't embed, sorry)

somehow they got derek jocobi in this movie...  is he an oxfordian or a mercenary?

ivandh
SophieWildChild wrote:

And Othello also tell us that it's best to remember if you have got the white or black pieces and not to get them mixed up ( Oh my God, that sounds racist!) 


Well the Bard was not all about tolerance, e.g. The Merchant of Venice.

Aslanjohn

Hamlet would have trouble making his mind on which move to make: "Bb2 or not b2, that is the question..."

sapientdust

Perhaps Iago. His strategic manipulation of Othello et al was as masterful as it was evil. He would also have the drive of a Fischer to crush the soul of his enemy and do anything and everything to improve his game.

ivandh

Falstaff would sooner use the pieces to clean his nose than clean the board.

elizabethlonehvid

Most of Shakespeares characters would fit I think.

What about the taming of the shrew?

SophieWildChild

yeah it has to be Iago, after all; ability to improvise, thinking ahead, manipulative skills, deviousness, ruthlessness, cold bloodedness, patience, strategical awareness, and a nice end game!