Sicilian Kan for d4?

I'm really into the Sicilian Kan because how solid it is and the hedgehog like formation. Is there anything like it against d4 I could employ? Thanks c:

Seems interesting, if anyone else has any other suggestions, I’d love to hear them c:

Kan is very good, but I think taiminov is better, opponent quite often take knight wrongly...

Taiminov and Kan are pretty closely related and I go between the two. Looking for a d4 defense that is similiar in style and I think I've settled on the nimzo and QID

Anybody that says the Nimzo is to hard for a beginner and then goes on to tell someone to play the QGA is either trolling or has their head inserted into their anus.

Nimzo QID combo is proven at WC level, with Karpov and Carlsen, is not too difficult to learn...

Good post, QGA and QGD are solid, simple and proven at WC level... only problem is one have to be very patient, wait to attack, and QGA... just let the pawn go and develop.

Agreed, apart from nimzo being tougher to play than KID?!

Maybe you play at higher level... most KID players don't have a clue. Nimzo can play more by feel, but KID, make one mistake, lion is crushed?!

It does work when black has a knight on f6, allowing Nxe4 after Bb4 - this is known as the Vienna QGD. Your opponent just took the pawn a move too early.

KID looks like a good choice

What does it have in common with the Sicilian Kan? The KID is not similar to the Sicilian.

KID is good... for masochism and headache...

iiivyzhang: If you're looking to get Hedgehog positions, you should play the Queen's Indian. The Nimzo-Indian is another option, but there's much more variety there. If I were you I would definitely avoid the English Defence. It's slightly dubious if White plays the best setup (d4, c4, e4, f3).

Optimissed: I think you're reaching the stage where you find that Jacob Aagaard's observation is correct, that chess may be a lot of tactics, but what really matters is strategy. The real reason why higher rated players outplay lower rated players is that they understand strategy better. If you're doing well against the Nimzo-Indian it means that you're getting better at strategy. KID is almost pure tactics, which is why the Fianchetto Variation tends to be so effective at lower levels (you throw the KID player off their normal 'throw the kitchen sink at the opponent' approach.

Maybe one can get to a point of over analysis? instead of trying to memorize very complex line... play more by feel?

I play the Kan against e4, and one can play very similarly against the English by going symmetrical with 1...c5 followed by e6, Nf6, b6 (or b5!) and so on. Against d4, the English defense is a great suggestion.

You'll either want to start with 1...Nf6, 1....b6, or 1...e6, and the main question here is what you want to allow white to do (one I've been struggling with myself!). To stay strictly in 1.d4 territory, Nf6 is probably the simplest. After that, you can choose e6 or b6; 2...e6 being the theoretical move (which gives you the option of playing Queen's Indian or Nimzo Indian) and ...b6 being the solid surprise.

Every d4 player worth anything will have a repertoire against the QID or Nimzo; they're not necessarily going to have much against 2...b6. With best play, black is supposed to be slightly worse after 2...b6 but your opponents don't tend to employ 'best play' and how much harm can "slightly worse" do at club level?

Yes, as d4 player... 2b6 is a surprise attack, am very much fearing this line, or maybe not?

2b6 is bad playing, this line is refuted... if you want QID you have to play nimzo move order, or is not good... listen to lion yes?

Here's what Avrukh suggests:

I feel that if I faced 2...b6 as white I would not be very worried about lack of preparation, as it doesn't seem very dangerous...

1...b6 is definitely inferior as white plays 2.e4 with good central control.

Optimissed: Yes, there will also be quiet and more positionally inclined variations in every opening, but even the Classical Variation in the KID relies a lot on memorizing lines and often becomes very sharp. And if we stick to generalities, rather than specific lines and sublines, the Nimzo and Queen's Indian are rather different from the KID. You may think that you knew more about strategy before than you do now. I obviously don't know you personally, but I dare say that most players improve strategically as time goes by. Looking back at my own games from years ago, I can now see that I committed strategic errors that back then didn't even register on my horizon.

AlisonHart: I agree with my137thaccount about the English Defence. The drawback with it is that White's best line suggest itself very naturally. I've faced it the English Defence numerous times and always got very comfortable positions out of the opening. The exception being when I played GM Simon Williams and tried to be a bit too clever for my own good and got a terrible position straight out of the opening.

Also the way of playing the position after 1.d4 Nf6 2c4 b6 isn't remotely similar to the english defence 1.d4 e6 2c4 b6. In the later, black has ideas with f5 for fighting against the big centre, which aren't available in the other line.