Not necessarily. But some of the skills which are useful in mathematics (e.g., memory, pattern recognition) are also useful in chess.
Also, some of the best chess players in history have been mathematicians: if I remember correctly, Max Euwe and Mikhail Botvinnik were mathematicians.
Euwe had a Ph.D. in math and was excellent at logic. Botvinnik was an electrical engineer and so obviously very mathematically inclined.
My wife is very good at math and science but I am not. She never studies chess, and I study a lot more. I've now gotten to the point where I can beat her due to my better understanding of the game. So my experience is that some level of math/logic talent will advance you in chess for a while, but eventually you have to put in the study to keep progressing.
rich wrote:
No it's not always true. You don't have to be good at maths to play chess at a good level. I'm only average at maths but reasonably good at chess rated at 1541 currently.
Why do u keep saying maths? Drop the 's'. And somehow I don't think that Pineapple is being serious. I mean his coach is Mr. Wizard?
ElFuser59 wrote:
rich wrote:
No it's not always true. You don't have to be good at maths to play chess at a good level. I'm only average at maths but reasonably good at chess rated at 1541 currently. Why do u keep saying maths? Drop the 's'. And somehow I don't think that Pineapple is being serious. I mean his coach is Mr. Wizard?
In Great Britain we all say Maths
My fifth grade math teacher (Mr. Gertler) is still, as far as I know, the second highest rated chess player in Delaware. My eighth grade math teacher says he plays a lot more poker than chess, which is understandable if you're interested in probability.
slovanik was a physists right? I think most of the russian guys had high math degrees
One doesn't require the other, but they tend to go hand in hand
rich wrote:
But math would just mean one sum, maths is the whole of mathematics.
Haha you guys are funny.
My degrees are in English, I love to beat the math majors. Currently there's a physics PhD I regularly trounce.
Math is just short for mathematics as is maths.
Arguing over who is most right when you're both in error, please.....
I don't know about chess, but if you're good in 'maths' your problably not very good in 'englishes'...
it kind of is because techinchally it makes you smarter.
and if your smart your better at chess since you have to think.
its mostly a strategic game.
mostly about strategy.
In American English, someone would be called a "three-time world champion," but in British English it would be "three-times world champion." There are lots of differences -- or as my Aussie mates would say "heaps of differences" -- between American and British English. Castigating someone from the other language group for speaking his language is futile.
No matter how often I point out to my UK friends that one really should drive on the right side of the road, they keep on driving on the left, madmen that they are. They are just lucky they live in a whole country of wacky people, otherwise imagine the traffic accidents.
De-Lar wrote:
Evil_Homer wrote:
Math is just short for mathematics as is maths. Arguing over who is most right when you're both in error, please..... Evil_Homer, In american english maths is not short for mathmatics, In American English math is short for mathmatics. Maths isn't even a word in American English.
Either way, they are both short for the same thing, which is my original point.
Lateral thinking dude.
Evil_Homer wrote:
De-Lar wrote:
Evil_Homer wrote:
Math is just short for mathematics as is maths. Arguing over who is most right when you're both in error, please..... Evil_Homer, In american english maths is not short for mathmatics, In American English math is short for mathmatics. Maths isn't even a word in American English. Either way, they are both short for the same thing, which is my original point. Lateral thinking dude.
Let us never forget what the Irish have given the English language. James Joyce alone would have been sufficient for any nation, but he's just one of many amazing writers. If they want to do some odd things with words, I say they've earned the right.
Duffer1965 wrote:
No matter how often I point out to my UK friends that one really should drive on the right side of the road, they keep on driving on the left, madmen that they are. They are just lucky they live in a whole country of wacky people, otherwise imagine the traffic accidents.
All I know that I've seen plenty of Brits driving on the wrong side of the road online when Grand Theft Auto IV first came out.
De-Lar wrote:
lol Duffer. If all art aspires to the condition of music, all the sciences aspire to the condition of mathematics. - George Santanaya Music is the pleasure of the human soul experiences from counting without being aware that it is counting. - Gottfried Leibniz Anyways back on topic, I recently read somewhere that the only true prodigies are in music, mathematics, and chess. It is generally understood that mathematics and music are linked in some way. I think it can be theorized that chess is linked to those two as well.
There are prodigies in Go as well, for the same reasons as chess. When a young mind both has a talent for a particular system and is exposed to it early, the child can essentially learn to think in that system the way most of us think in our language. This seems to be what Capablanca was doing. He could look at a chess position and know what the needed move was, in the same way that others can look at a sentence and know what the needed word is.
this thread is smart or dumb? what does that have to do with maths and chess? i fall into the dumb section so im not getting it
Thanks PinappleBrain...misquoting others is clearly the province of elementary school kids who hear only what they wish to hear! [Pinhead is a pretty good mathematician & must be hoping to read there is a 1:1 correlation!
Well Derek, as others have already pointed out...possessing the mental qualities that enable one to score well in a mathematics test is hardly a predictor of chess ability. Nor is a high chess rating indicative of high mathematical ability [it's a bit hard to explain this to elementary school kids when they have hardly ventured outside the world of arithmetic]
Suffice to say that both require intelligence...and skill at either indicates a mind geared toward 'questioning and problem solving'!
MW
My coach Mrwizard says that if your good at maths you are good at chess, is that true