Spassky on Fischer (1986)

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kamalakanta

I will always love Spassky.

He said, about Fischer, that inside, Fisher was pure, like a diamond, but also that Bobby had nothing else than chess.

When Spassky went to visit Fischer's grave in Selfos, Iceland, he said; "Can I be buried next to him?"

 

kamalakanta

The Western media was always unkind to Bobby...that is why he hated it. But when you read, let us say, GM Gufeld in his book "My Life in Chess" (highly recommended) talking about Bobby Fischer, it is obvious that the Russian GMs were very fond of Fischer!

By the way, to give you an idea, during the Curacao Candidates' Tournament in 1962, Tal had to be hospitalized. You know who was the only player to go and visit him? Bobby Fischer!

 

kamalakanta

Here is a photo of Tal giving Fischer a flower! (probably at Havana Olympiad, 1966).....

 

StinkingHyena

Fischer was an incredible player, but about as stable as a cuckoo.

blueemu
StinkingHyena wrote:

Fischer was an incredible player, but about as stable as a cuckoo.

Sanity is somewhat over-rated.

msnman

알겠어요.....

simaginfan

Great stuff. Thank you. I always think of Spassky as a gentleman - but one with his own mind. His memoirs would be a great read!!

Spiritbro77

Fischer left because his mind broke. He was already a mental case before he won the Championship. Paranoid. Delusional. The Fischer story is a tragedy. He would have had a much better life if he had never taken up the game. It consumed him. 

StinkingHyena
PolarChess wrote:
ChessVesuvius wrote:

Fischer left because the chess world is full of cheats.

 

Fischer left chess because he could not mentally handle the potential of losing his World Championship Title.   The only chessplayer that never loses is the one that never plays!  In addition, BF always had mental illness and it was getting worse as he aged.

👍 And he probably would have lost against Karpov, not because of Karpovs better play, but the Soviets would have used their full bag of tricks. It wouldn’t have taken too much shenanigans (I always wanted to use that word!) to crack him like an egg.

DrChesspain
Spiritbro77 wrote:

Fischer left because his mind broke. He was already a mental case before he won the Championship. Paranoid. Delusional. 

Exactly.  I'm always amused when reading "what-if" arguments about a potential 1975 Fischer-Karpov match, since most of the pro-Fischer fans ignore the likely effects of Fischer's worsening mental health problems.

Slav2Luv

Great stuff. Spassky must be one of the most likeable champions. And one of the most underrated. Great pictures of a young RJF. Comparing them to later pics, his decline is obvious and tragic. As a victim of Mental illness in various forms, people who use terms like nutcase or whacky... need to remember that they could be afflicted at some point also? As for RJF v Karpov... this has been debated a lot. Key question is what sort of RJF would have turned up? Prime, awesome version or a rusty declined version? Karpov gave himself a 40 percent chance, and I would roughly agree with that odds.

DrSpudnik

Spassky, always entertaining, always the gentleman.

kamalakanta
melvinbluestone wrote:

    Bobby Fischer undoubtedly had his idiosyncrasies, to put it mildly. But his bizarre and disturbing behavior was occasionally offset by a more civil character. His relationship with Spassky is an example. It seems he considered him a gentleman and always treated him with respect. He even went so far as to send him a personal letter of apology after the brouhaha surrounding the forfeited game in the '72 match. And, yes, he was also quite friendly with Tal, and some of the other Soviet players.

     Although it's difficult to believe in the light of his later weird and perhaps even psychotic behavior, Fischer did have his human side.........

 

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Yes!

The Soviet chess players shared their love for the game with him...Gufeld remembers him fondly.

Fischer never recovered from the trauma of growing without his father.....it was a wound that never healed!   

 

Rat1960

Something clearly happened in 1972.
Robert Fischer could have made a fortune from companies. Could have done chess training. etc.
Could have played in tournaments like he said he would.
I was a kid at the time and thought he just took a year out.
Having played through the 1992 games, it is spooky like going into a house that has not been updated in decades.

Slav2Luv

Seclusion. Paranoia. Decline. Shame.

kamalakanta

Privacy. Peace.

llamonade2
Rat1960 wrote:

Something clearly happened in 1972.
Robert Fischer could have made a fortune from companies. Could have done chess training. etc.
Could have played in tournaments like he said he would.
I was a kid at the time and thought he just took a year out.
Having played through the 1992 games, it is spooky like going into a house that has not been updated in decades.

What do you mean something happened in 1972? He'd already quit chess once, and they barely got him to play for the WC to begin with.

You say he could have made money? He didn't care about money, and had already been scammed out of nearly all of his by some Christian cult he used to listen to on the radio.

He was never a mentally healthy person, and after 1972 he quit chess again, only that time it was for good.

Slav2Luv

Does somebody know where he lived, what he did in those 20yrs or so?

batgirl

Kasparov on Fischer :

 

Time magazine Jan. 26, 2008
The Chessman
by Garry Kasparov

   It is hard to say exactly when I first heard the name Bobby Fischer, but it was quite early in my life. When he was battling Boris Spassky for the world title in 1972, I was a 9-year-old club player in my native Baku in the Soviet Union. I followed the games avidly. The newspapers had extensive daily coverage of the match, although that waned as it became clear the Soviet champion was headed for defeat. Fischer's My 60 Memorable Games was one of my first chess books. (It had been translated into Russian and sold in the U.S.S.R. with no respect for copyright or royalties, infuriating its author.)
   As I improved during the 1970s, my coach, Alexander Nikitin, made charts to track my progress and to set goals for me. A rating above 2500 was grand master; 2600 meant membership in the Top 10; 2700 was world-champion territory. And even above that was Bobby Fischer, at the very top with 2785. I became world champion in 1985, but true to Nikitin's vision, I had an even loftier goal; it took me four full years to surpass Fischer's rating record.
   It was Fischer's attitude on and off the board that infused his play with unrivaled power. Before Fischer, no one was ready to fight to the death in every game. No one was willing to work around the clock to push chess to a new level. But Fischer was, and he became the detonator of an avalanche of new chess ideas, a revolutionary whose revolution is still in progress.
   At Fischer's peak, even his adversaries had to admire his game. At the hallowed Moscow Central Chess Club, top Soviet players gathered to analyze Fischer's crushing 1971 match defeat of one of their colleagues, Mark Taimanov. Someone suggested that Taimanov could have gained the upper hand with a queen move, to which David Bronstein, a world-championship challenger in 1951, replied, "Ah, but we don't know what Fischer would have done."
   Not long afterward, the grim Soviet sports authorities dragged in Taimanov and his peers to discuss Taimanov's inability to defeat the American. How had he failed? Was he not a worthy representative of the state? Spassky finally spoke up: "When we all lose to Fischer, will we be interrogated here as well?"
   By World War II, the once strong U.S. chess tradition had largely faded. There was little chess culture, few schools to nurture and train young talent. So for an American player to reach world-championship level in the 1950s required an obsessive degree of personal dedication. Fischer's triumph over the Soviet chess machine, culminating in his 1972 victory over Spassky in Reykjavík, Iceland, demanded even more.
   Fischer declined to defend his title in 1975, and by forfeit, it passed back into the embrace of the Soviets, in the person of Anatoly Karpov. According to all accounts, Fischer had descended into isolation and anger after winning that final match game against Spassky. Fischer didn't play again until a brief and disturbing reappearance in 1992, after which his genius never again touched a piece in public. Having conquered the chess Olympus, he was unable to find a new target for his power and passion.
   I am often asked if I ever met or played Bobby Fischer. The answer is no, I never had that opportunity. But even though he saw me as a member of the evil chess establishment that he felt had robbed and cheated him, I am sorry I never had a chance to thank him personally for what he did for our sport.
   Much has already been written about Fischer's disappearance and apparent mental instability. Some are quick to place the blame on chess itself for his decline, which would be a foolish blunder. Pushing too hard in any endeavor brings great risk. I prefer to remember his global achievements instead of his inner tragedies. It is with justice that Fischer spent his final days in Iceland, the place of his greatest triumph. There he was always loved and seen in the best possible way: as a chess player.