Stalemate sucks and it needs to be removed

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AgileElephants
haveyouseencyan wrote:
Flotteenchante wrote:
Stalemate adds so much to the subtlety of the game . I understand your frustration , but as your understanding of the game grows you will appreciate this . I don’t mean this at all in a condescending way . Once you study many master games and the history of great chess games then you will find examples of incredible escapes through stalemate which can spring from nowhere occasionally . I was held to a draw in the British Rapidplay in Leeds many years ago . Three pawns up and I wondered why my opponent was playing on …. I soon found out … he sacrificed his rook and my full point turned to a dusty half point in an Instant . Stalemate will come to your rescue as much as it frustrates you . So don’t worry and learn to love the complexities of our shared game . All the best , Simon

Personally, I will never appreciate or respect people abusing a stupid rule to get a draw when they were dominated.

Can you name one other sport in the world that makes bizarre rules to benefit people in obvious losing positions?

The only people who like stalemate are seasoned players who abuse it for everything its worth and take advantage of less experienced players who don't abuse it or are manipulated. This is not skill as much as you guys like to believe it i, just rule abuse from people who are losing and should have zero hope..

In the last three games you stalemated your opponent, no one was abusing anything. Your opponents were not tricking or trapping you. You had plenty of time on the clock. You could have won in a myriad ways. But you didn't. It was your fault and your fault alone.

And now frustrated with your losses, you come here to blame them on the rules of the game instead of your own inability to play well. You are not the first, not the last. If you stick around long enough and get better at the game, you'll look back on this rant of yours very differently.

haveyouseencyan
AgileElephants wrote:
haveyouseencyan wrote:
Flotteenchante wrote:
Stalemate adds so much to the subtlety of the game . I understand your frustration , but as your understanding of the game grows you will appreciate this . I don’t mean this at all in a condescending way . Once you study many master games and the history of great chess games then you will find examples of incredible escapes through stalemate which can spring from nowhere occasionally . I was held to a draw in the British Rapidplay in Leeds many years ago . Three pawns up and I wondered why my opponent was playing on …. I soon found out … he sacrificed his rook and my full point turned to a dusty half point in an Instant . Stalemate will come to your rescue as much as it frustrates you . So don’t worry and learn to love the complexities of our shared game . All the best , Simon

Personally, I will never appreciate or respect people abusing a stupid rule to get a draw when they were dominated.

Can you name one other sport in the world that makes bizarre rules to benefit people in obvious losing positions?

The only people who like stalemate are seasoned players who abuse it for everything its worth and take advantage of less experienced players who don't abuse it or are manipulated. This is not skill as much as you guys like to believe it i, just rule abuse from people who are losing and should have zero hope..

In the last three games you stalemated your opponent, no one was abusing anything. Your opponents were not tricking or trapping you. You had plenty of time on the clock. You could have won in a myriad ways. But you didn't. It was your fault and your fault alone.

And now frustrated with your losses, you come here to blame them on the rules of the game instead of your own inability to play well. You are not the first, not the last. If you stick around long enough and get better at the game, you'll look back on this rant of yours very differently.

yes you are right.

Serene_Sameer
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN STALE MATE IS REMOVED FROM CHESS.COM I HATE STALEMATE BEING REMOVED FROM CHESS.COM I COULDNT EVEN MOVE ANYWHERE BUT CAUSE OF CHESS.COM REMOVAL OF STALEMATE I FLIPING LOST BY TIME PLS ADD IT BACK and im black HAPPENED ON C7 LAST MOVE OFC
Leftehnuhnt-Lmao

you have a point, OP.

the problem with abolishing it is, what to do when your opponent cannot make a move.

you will have to get the checkmate rule amended with it.

blueemu

Perhaps it's "not paying attention" that ought to be abolished, instead of changing stalemate.

AgileElephants

No stalemate? Haiyaa... Leg down from chair... Of course, leg down from chair.

Fr3nchToastCrunch

falcon39

+1. Ive stalemated a few times and gotten a few nice escapes due to stalmate traps, but these are very very rare, but cool when they pop up

PlayerIDC

Stalemate is a good rule, especially if want to win in a losing position. If you lost the game, because you moved your piece in a positon where the King and the other pieces cannot move, then you should have known better.

Honchkrowabcd

Agreed, I was in this completely winning position and my opponent had the opportunity to throw away both his rooks in order to tie the game due to this useless rule. Luckily he messed up and I still won but it's still completely stupid how someone can avoid a loss by doing this.

Ulisespincelsiku

Buenas noches estimados amigos de Chess.com:

Desde hace unas semanas que viene ocurriendo una falla del sistema que me hace perder las partidas injustamente. Llega un momento en que hago mi jugada y el adversario no hace la suya, es decir no responde, pasan los segundo y minutos y de un momento a otro sale el aviso que el contrincante ha ganado y aparece una jugada que ha realizado, pero que yo no he podido ver y por falta del movimiento de mi parte, pasó el tiempo y he perdido, pero yo sí hice mi movimiento o mi jugada correspondiente. En otras ocasiones el adversario no responde y corre su tiempo hasta que se le agota, llegando al momento segundo y ahí se queda. Pero después sale el anuncio que ha ganado ¿A qué se debe esto? ¿Cómo poder solucionar?
Muchas gracias

ChessAchiver235

Si pero no (Yes but no)

falcon39

nahh this requires very specific positions and its very rare that it actually occurs.

ItsTwoDuece
Serene_Sameer wrote:
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN STALE MATE IS REMOVED FROM CHESS.COM I HATE STALEMATE BEING REMOVED FROM CHESS.COM I COULDNT EVEN MOVE ANYWHERE BUT CAUSE OF CHESS.COM REMOVAL OF STALEMATE I FLIPING LOST BY TIME PLS ADD IT BACK and im black HAPPENED ON C7 LAST MOVE OFC

Bro you could have moved the rook... stalemate hasn't been removed...

jetoba
ItsTwoDuece wrote:
Serene_Sameer wrote:
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN STALE MATE IS REMOVED FROM CHESS.COM I HATE STALEMATE BEING REMOVED FROM CHESS.COM I COULDNT EVEN MOVE ANYWHERE BUT CAUSE OF CHESS.COM REMOVAL OF STALEMATE I FLIPING LOST BY TIME PLS ADD IT BACK and im black HAPPENED ON C7 LAST MOVE OFC

Bro you could have moved the rook... stalemate hasn't been removed...

Some people say that if the king cannot move and is not in check then it is stalemate regardless of whether or not there are other pieces that can move. You can explain the rule, emphasize the ability of other pieces to move, and show the rule in the rulebook, and they will still argue that your interpretation of the rule is wrong.

Then you set the board up in the initial position and ask if it is stalemate because the king cannot move. So far that has always worked for an explanation.