Started playing chess at 40+. Chances of earning a title? Haha ...

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SteveMini

I'm turning 40 in a couple months. I've never seriously studied chess or played much before. Say I start learning at 40+ and have all day to study (no wife or kids! And with a humble disability pension that keeps me home all day with nothing to do!)

So. I've heard it takes 10-12 good years to get to the level of GM along with a little luck. Say because I'm older it takes 16-30 years of daily practice and devotion. I mean: it's possible.

However: Apparently there's about 800 million chess players and only 1,500 GMs. Only about 0.3% of those affiliated with FIDE ever receive a GM title.

How to keep motivated past the first few weeks or months, especially if you realize you'll probably never earn a title? What do you all think? Advice, tips?

Nicator65

If you're planning to make a living out of chess (articles, coaching, etc.), then a title helps. However, playing chess to get a title hardly gets a title. Otherwise, most old-timers would have one.

If you see a title as a consequence and not as an objective, you'll realize that it's related to playing well plus results in OTB (over the board) competitions. Now, playing well involves a number of skills, but the most important is assessing a position accurately, by abstraction and, or by precise calculation.

You don't need to master each and every kind of position. Say you play the Scandinavian Defense. Then make a hobby of studying thematic games, then the theory behind it, and expand to the middlegames and endings that arise from that opening. Don't try to become a master in chess but a master in the Scandinavian Defense. Once you're satisfied with your results, expand to other opening systems with White and Black.

Thing is, you don't need to know and master French and German to write well in English. And while you study and apply your knowledge in games, you'll get that joy and motivation you're looking for.

jay_1944

Sorry to say, starting chess at 40 and earning GM will not happen.

jay_1944

Are you okay with devoting hours a day, everyday to chess, making it your first priority for the rest of your life and not quite hitting a master level at all? If not, I highly suggest speading your time elsewhere and just playing for fun :)

KeSetoKaiba
SteveMini wrote:

...How to keep motivated past the first few weeks or months, especially if you realize you'll probably never earn a title? What do you all think? Advice, tips?

The best thing you can probably do is improve your chess and have fun along the way. Chess can be a very rewarding game, but only focused on a title at the end of the path (that you may never reach) usually takes a lot of fun out of the journey. 

With lots of free time, then you can enjoy learning and improving your chess; getting a title is still possible. Likely, or even a decent chance: no. However, that doesn't make it impossible either. Enjoy the game and you'll probably get better at it; at the very least you'll have more fun with it happy.png 

jjupiter6

What are people basing their advice on? Their own journey to getting a title?

Piimae

just play chess if you like it... you will become better and better for sure but why is a title so important for you? when it should happen, it will, else enjoy the game and improve your game. Don't just think you can't do it because a bunch of random guys say so... They don't know you and say that you can't make it!? Don't live the opinions of other people. You will know it if you are able to do it or not on your road of playing chess.

dfgh123

Highly unlikely you will go up 100 elo per year and then get stuck at a certain rating for life, like everyone else.

bong711

Join a local chess club. Your journey starts there. Since you intend to earn a title, you should study systematically. I suggest you start with Yasser Seirawan Winning Chess Series.

baddogno

I think you need to get a better idea of the skills that you need to master before making such a commitment.  I'm a big fan of the Lessons here; they're very well done and would serve as a great survey of the road ahead.  Why not try a month of diamond membership?  That will allow you unlimited Lessons and tactics.  If you find studying 3 to 4 hours a day works for you, then maybe go for a year's membership.  In any event, you'll have a better idea of what's necessary to get good.

Account_Suspended

well, let's put it this way. do you like playing the lottery?