Step by Step Guide on how to Cheat

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MikeCrockett

I think it's time for those of you who think chess.com allows cheating to publish your proof here. One of two things will happen. Either you get caught trying to cheat and get banned or chess.com will use the information to prevent others from doing the same. Either way the non-cheaters will benefit. So please feel free to contribute the information here. Be very explicit on the details. Those of us who are interested should be able to duplicate your methods. :-)

CrannelB

soooo your admitting you are using computer assisstance? Or are looking to do so?

MikeCrockett

LOL Neither! This is more of a personal challenge to those who gripe about cheating to "Put Up or Shut Up". ;-)

TurboFish

Usually this type of thread would have been locked by now.  Mods are maybe too busy, or still in bed?

drawingdroidfish

The cheaters who get caught and banned are probably the ones who cheat all the time, on every move.  It's got to be harder to detect what I would call "occasional" cheaters, who don't cheat in every game, on every move.  For instance they might use a sub-par opening repertoire, but then rely on their engines to pull them ahead in the ensuing middlegame/endgame.  And then once they are winning in one of those phases (e.g. winning attack in the middlegame, material advantage in the ending), they turn off their engines and rely on their own skill, presuming they have any of course.

Or they cheat to get revenge against somebody who beat them fair and square in another game.  I know once I was playing two correspondence games against the same player.  I uncorked a very pretty mate in three against him in one game, something worthy of tactics trainer, with a nice clearance sacrifice.  Maybe he thought I cheated to find it, but I was already up the exchange.

Well then all of a sudden in the other game where he had been a pawn down he starts playing like a grandmaster, gets his pawn back, then plays the Q+P ending like Capablanca for the win.  The a$$hole even had the audacity to make a comment when the game almost certainly tipped so far in his favor that he was assured of the win to the effect of "good battle but I think I win now".  FVck him.

Diakonia

1. Turn on chess engine

2. Play move engine suggests

MikeCrockett

I believe chess.com has done work in the area of detecting chess engine usage.  I agree this is probably the most common method, but it's likely to get detected eventually and, if it continues, the account will likely be shut down. I think there was an interesting write-up in Chess Life a few years ago that describes how this anti-cheating method works.

I'm not claiming that cheating isn't a problem.  It should be stopped.  I just think it's irresponsible and "bad press" to claim chess.com "allows" cheaters.  It doesn't.  Every web site faces the same issue and they all work to prevent it.

If cheating is going on, the method should be documented so that it can be detected and shut down.  Chess.com should be grateful to receive the information.  If it can't be documented, then the people who do make the claim out of ignorance, should be asked to prove it.

VLaurenT
MikeCrockett wrote:

I think it's time for those of you who think chess.com allows cheating to publish your proof here. One of two things will happen. Either you get caught trying to cheat and get banned or chess.com will use the information to prevent others from doing the same. Either way the non-cheaters will benefit. So please feel free to contribute the information here. Be very explicit on the details. Those of us who are interested should be able to duplicate your methods. :-)

This is nonsense. Please go there :

http://www.chess.com/groups/home/cheating-forum

drawingdroidfish
MikeCrockett wrote:

If cheating is going on, the method should be documented so that it can be detected and shut down.  Chess.com should be grateful to receive the information.  If it can't be documented, then the people who do make the claim out of ignorance, should be asked to prove it.

Well there's a cheating forum so it's more appropriate there, indeed that may be the ONLY place it's appropriate.  And I'm sure somebody has addressed my concerns about the "occasional" cheater

alain978

Step by step guide on how NOT to master your chess skills!!!

chesskingdreamer

1. Wake up

2. Use a process, guaranteed to win every game if you do it well enough. The steps are:

2(a). Think.

2(b). Outsmart your opponent/Outplay your opponent.

2(c). (Optional) Rant on the forums about how your opponent thought you were cheating. 

JurgenLiv
Cheating is bad!
fenix500

Ya think?!

DrFrank124c

I think the best way to cheat is to play an honest game in accordance with the rules. If you do this and make an honest effort you will ultimately wind up to be a good chessplayer. At the same time those who cheat-- while they will gain some satisfaction from winning the game-- will become poor chessplayers in the long run due to their lack of effort. And the cheaters will realize that they have accomplished nothing with the time spent on chess and they will become bored and go on to waste their lives in other endeavors. 

FChopin99

This is why I prefer to play live games. You can't cheat in those.

(That is, unless you "accidentally" knock over a piece, then put it back... in the wrong spot ;)

NightKingx

The best way to cheat is to study, because you will get better than your opponent and wont need any computer assitance. So you will play better but since you are not using engine, you can never get caught.

Magic!

Former_mod_david

 

Please do not discuss how to cheat on the public forums: this is what the group above is for. I am locking this thread.

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