Super dumb question about a rule.

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Storiaron

Hi

 

I've played roughly a 1000 game, and yesterday a question slapped my mind. It'll be difficult to explain, but i'll try. 

 

So the situation is: The opponent's king is attacked by one of my pieces, let's say it"s a rook, and he moves his bishop between my rook and his king(so covers the check)Now can i move my king in the next turn to a square that would be attacked by that bishop?(the one that he can't move cause he covers the king with that piece)

 

Thanks !

Strangemover

No you cannot do that. Even if a piece is pinned and moving it would expose the king to check, it is still not possible to place your own king in the line of that piece.

IMKeto

You cannot move your King into, or through check.

Monie49
No
Storiaron

I thought the same, but I went for sure happy.png

 

Thank you all

edilio134

First of all I beg your pardon for my poor english then I take the opportunity in this post for another dumb question without opening another trhead.

When i'm plaing chess i don't usually (sometime i do very often no ) recognize the opponent's mistakes but with the evaluation window on the right of my page i can't immediately recognize and  try to exploit them.

I know obviously that the opponent has the same window but i think it's not completely "right" for a chess game.

What do you think ?

Storiaron
blacktower01 wrote:

First of all I beg your pardon for my poor english then I take the opportunity in this post for another dumb question without opening another trhead.

When i'm plaing chess i don't usually (sometime i do very often no ) recognize the opponent's mistakes but with the evaluation window on the right of my page i can't immediately recognize and  try to exploit them.

I know obviously that the opponent has the same window but i think it's not completely "right" for a chess game.

What do you think ?

 

 

Evaluation window? 

IMKeto
Storiaron wrote:
blacktower01 wrote:

First of all I beg your pardon for my poor english then I take the opportunity in this post for another dumb question without opening another trhead.

When i'm plaing chess i don't usually (sometime i do very often no ) recognize the opponent's mistakes but with the evaluation window on the right of my page i can't immediately recognize and  try to exploit them.

I know obviously that the opponent has the same window but i think it's not completely "right" for a chess game.

What do you think ?

 

 

Evaluation window? 

I believe he is referring to the black, and white bars after each move that measures how long you took on each move.

edilio134

-------->I believe he is referring to the black, and white bars after each move that measures how long you took on each move.

Yes

MGleason
blacktower01 wrote:

-------->I believe he is referring to the black, and white bars after each move that measures how long you took on each move.

Yes

Those aren't evaluation bars.  All they do is tell you how long you (or your opponent) spent thinking about a move.

MGleason
Storiaron wrote:

Hi

 

I've played roughly a 1000 game, and yesterday a question slapped my mind. It'll be difficult to explain, but i'll try. 

 

So the situation is: The opponent's king is attacked by one of my pieces, let's say it"s a rook, and he moves his bishop between my rook and his king(so covers the check)Now can i move my king in the next turn to a square that would be attacked by that bishop?(the one that he can't move cause he covers the king with that piece)

 

Thanks !

Think about it this way: if you were playing until the king was captured instead of to checkmate, your king would be captured first, as he'd use the pinned piece to take your king.  Then you wouldn't be able to take his king because you'd have already lost.

edilio134

------>Those aren't evaluation bars.  All they do is tell you how long you (or your opponent) spent thinking about a move.

I'm very surprised by my rating....conforming to my IQ should be around 150 in a optimistic way

Storiaron
FishEyedFools wrote:
Storiaron wrote:
blacktower01 wrote:

First of all I beg your pardon for my poor english then I take the opportunity in this post for another dumb question without opening another trhead.

When i'm plaing chess i don't usually (sometime i do very often no ) recognize the opponent's mistakes but with the evaluation window on the right of my page i can't immediately recognize and  try to exploit them.

I know obviously that the opponent has the same window but i think it's not completely "right" for a chess game.

What do you think ?

 

 

Evaluation window? 

I believe he is referring to the black, and white bars after each move that measures how long you took on each move.

 

 

Never have i laughed so hard in my life

Bad_Dobby_Fischer

lool

Storiaron
JohnZutaut wrote:
Nothing is a foolish question that’s why we are here , it would be nice if you watched a 10 min beginners to chess video , it will help answer some of your questions. Anyways you cannot move a piece that is protecting your king from a check it’s called being pinned .

 

 

I don't have some questions, only this one happy.png

I'm pretty sure I had this info somewhere in my brain but it was deeply in the subconscious part.

lkjssserrvmtnthst
Snookslayer wrote:

I've argued this before.... HOW CAN A PIECE HAVE INFLUENCE OVER SQUARES IT CAN'T LEGALLY MOVE TO??? Ridiculous.  White should be able to castle in this situation, but no.

 

 

Simple: suppose one can capture the king. Who would capture first?

EscherehcsE
Snookslayer wrote:

I've argued this before.... HOW CAN A PIECE HAVE INFLUENCE OVER SQUARES IT CAN'T LEGALLY MOVE TO??? Ridiculous.  White should be able to castle in this situation, but no.

 

Feel free to start your own chess variant. Give it a snazzy name. Have fun with it.

Rocky64
EscherehcsE wrote:
Snookslayer wrote:

I've argued this before.... HOW CAN A PIECE HAVE INFLUENCE OVER SQUARES IT CAN'T LEGALLY MOVE TO??? Ridiculous.  White should be able to castle in this situation, but no.

 

Feel free to start your own chess variant. Give it a snazzy name. Have fun with it.

This variant already exists! It's called "Superpins," though it's used in composed problems rather than in practical games.

Lagomorph
Snookslayer wrote:

  At least acknowledge that it's illogical.?. No? 

 

You need to make a case for it being illogical, which you have so far failed to do.

 

The logic of the current rules is this. A piece's ability to move , and it's ability to threaten another square are two entirely different things.

A piece may not move if it exposes its own king to check because of the rule that one is not allowed to put one's own king in check.

A piece may threaten any square on the board that is within it's normal capture range. But there is no requirement that it has to be able to actually move to that threatened square. Indeed in any chess game that ends with a checkmate, there is no movement of the piece that delivers the checkmate, the king is never actually captured.

 

You are confusing these two separate functions : the ability to move and the ability to threaten.

IMKeto
Snookslayer wrote:
EscherehcsE wrote:
Snookslayer wrote:

I've argued this before.... HOW CAN A PIECE HAVE INFLUENCE OVER SQUARES IT CAN'T LEGALLY MOVE TO??? Ridiculous.  White should be able to castle in this situation, but no.

 

Feel free to start your own chess variant. Give it a snazzy name. Have fun with it.

Good idea.  I'll call it "chess" ... instead of "chess, and some rules don't make any damn sense" as it is now.

 

I hate this response..... "well these are the current rules, so no matter how stupid, I support them."  At least acknowledge that it's illogical.?. No? 

You havent shown any reason for the rule being "illogical"  

Youre trying to equate this rule with running a red light (as long as no other cars are around)  They cant hit me, so its ok.