Take back option in chess.com !!

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kbalaiah

Dear sir/Executives of Chess.com / players /

At  times a good player looses his game by a move by simple overlooking or in a time preasure. why not our chess.com introduce takeback option with the permission of opponent ?

K.Thirukkalathy

orangehonda

The best way I've seen this implemented is as a pre-determined setting before a game is accepted.  For example when you put out a seek, you might specify time, color, rating, and number of take backs allotted to each player.  If you press the take back button, it automatically takes your last move back (even if your opponent just played in which case two half moves are taken back).

But then in blitz someone could use two takebacks in a row to seriously alter the position and screw with your head if you only have 5 seconds left.  If it gives you your time back too, then there's some abuse issues there as well... especially on the turn-based side.

But problems like this aside, it would make this site too casual in my opinion.  Even sites that cater more toward kids/beginners like Yahoo! don't allow take backs.  I just don't see them implementing it here.

kohai

Takeback games are already possible in online games (not live chess)  on here :)

But its for unrated games only

jchurch5566

Hi guys,

This is a bad idea.  It leads to lazy, sloppy, poor chess.  Losing games due to 'simple oversite' is part of the learning curve.  Much better to lose the game and learn from your mistake.  Such loses will make you better player in the long run.

Watch your back rank.

kohai

Its useful for those learning or teaching though

guitarzan
kohai wrote:

Its useful for those learning or teaching though


Linking your 2 posts together, perhaps just spreading the word that, " 'takebacks' are allowed in unrated games, especially helpful to teachers & students, etc. " would do the trick.

I agree w/ the other posts opposed to making this part of the options available in all games. I think it degrades the game and will only lead to new problems and frustrations. Thanks for asking.

alamodan

I never think of taking back a move, must only improve concentration.  

I am 71 yrs old and learned to play my 10 yr in school.  I was pretty good placed 2nd  in an Ohio St U open tournament in 1971. No take backs allowed improves concentration.  Moved to New Mexico and no one place chess in this area and have not played in 15 yrs.  My grandson told me about chess.com, I have not been that computer literate. I singed up and find my concentration is lacking and make dumb move. I never think of taking back a move, must only improve concentration.  

kbalaiah
alamodan wrote:

I never think of taking back a move, must only improve concentration.  

I am 71 yrs old and learned to play my 10 yr in school.  I was pretty good placed 2nd  in an Ohio St U open tournament in 1971. No take backs allowed improves concentration.  Moved to New Mexico and no one place chess in this area and have not played in 15 yrs.  My grandson told me about chess.com, I have not been that computer literate. I singed up and find my concentration is lacking and make dumb move. I never think of taking back a move, must only improve concentration.  


Thank you  71 yrs young dear sir  for your experienced comments

Thirukkalathy.K

kbalaiah
kohai wrote:

Takeback games are already possible in online games (not live chess)  on here :)

But its for unrated games only


Thank you behan gi for your fastest reply

Thirukkalathy.K

Murrrrr

I would support take back only if is by agreement. Like offering a draw, you ask your opponent (beg) if you can return to a previous position. This could be really helpful when the main goal is to get better. Other player can teach the other in this way a lot better and point out mistakes, by simply playing the result out and then returning to a position before the mistake. Trial and error is a great way to learn.

francisbrault

I once played in a site  and its takeback system for live chess was simple and useful to my opinion. It worked this way: At the right of your board you had a ''ask takeback'' button just like ''resign'' and ''offer draw''. If you clicked it worked the exact same way as the ''offer draw'' button. If your opponent made a move, it automatically declined the offer. If you opponent accepted the takeback, your could replay your last move and all this without restituting any time to any players. Once your takeback was accepted, the ''ask takeback'' button disappeared from the right of your board.

I think this button could be very useful in standart or blitz live chess because I have lost a couple of games because I made a very crappy move not intentionally by not knowing I had clicked on a piece and ckicking on a square or by letting go of my mouse click a square short of the piece destination.

I think chess.com could really consider this option because it worked well in other chess sites.

Sorry for my bad english

Francis

mnag

Takebacks? Not a good idea (period!).

Murrrrr
mnag wrote:

Takebacks? Not a good idea (period!).


So better way to learn isn't a good idea???

eddiewsox

I played on a site that allowed takebacks, my opponent hung his Queen and asked for a takeback, I granted it. Later in the same game I asked for a takeback and was denied. I was not happy.

Skwerly

Take your time.  If you play blitz, expect sloppy results in time pressure.  Take-backs are for sissies.  :D

Murrrrr

I've played a game with take backs. My opponent threw the game to me with one very sloppy move. The game was in early state and I thought the endgame would be really fun to play so I offered a take back for his last move and he accepted (of course). We played the game pretty evenly and the endgame was the best I've played. I ended up losing the game, but I don't regret offering the take back.

BigAlex

I only allow takebacks when it is clear that it was a unfortunate mouse slip (Kb1 instead of 0-0 for instance)..

Poor move must be punished with a bad position. Real Chess doesn't have mouse, so.. NO takebacks!

kohai

If someone creates a challenge that is either direct to you or through the challenges page, it does show as "takeback" so you still have the choice to decline or not choose that game.

The only time in a standard game or chess960 where a move can be taken back is if the staff do it due to a site error.  For example when there was an issue a while ago with the checkmating move, we had to take back that last move (which was the checkmate move) so the player could remake it to end the game.. that was a site fault we were fixing. Otherwise in normal games, there isn't a takeback option. It has to be chosen in the game set up by whomever is creating it.