#1: Borislav Ivanov (Goes from 1900 to beating GM's overnight!)
#2: Gary Kasparov
#3: Bobby Fischer
Most talented chess player of all time: Paul Morphy.
the 3 greatest chess players of all time
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USArmyParatrooper wrote:
#1: Borislav Ivanov (Goes from 1900 to beating GM's overnight!)
#2: Gary Kasparov
#3: Bobby Fischer
Most talented chess player of all time: Paul Morphy.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/14/crosswords/chess/player-suspected-of-cheating-is-suspended-for-4-months.html?_r=0
You guys aren't even going to mention Magnus Carlson? Wow
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It may be unfair to compare old players vs. modern (Just as it is to compare professional athletes) because of the influence of technology, but the sad truth is, Carlson and Kasparov would mop up Fischer, Capablanca. etc. because modern players have a longer history of play to study from, learning from the likes of Fischer and Spassky, but even more so because of what computer analysis has done for today's game. If earlier player had the tools that we today can learn from, we'd have a different stroy no doubt, but it's hard to argue that the game has evolved with technology giving us stronger play now than ever before.
P.S. Carlson takes PEDs
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ELMHScc_CK wrote:
Kasparov, Tal, Morphy(I personally think Tal was better than Fischer, just my opinion)
At least I'm not the only one who puts Tal up there with the best! +1
Nov 29, 2013
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Twinchicky wrote:
At least I'm not the only one who puts Tal up there with the best! +1
See my post #25 on page 2
| Position | best year | best 2-year period | best 3-year period | best 5-year period | best 10-year period | best 15-year period |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Fischer | Fischer | Fischer | Fischer; Kasparov | Fischer; Capablanca | Capablanca |
| 2 | Kramnik | Kramnik; Capablanca; Kasparov | Capablanca; Kasparov | Karpov; Kramnik | ||
| 3 | Kasparov | Capablanca | Kramnik | |||
| 4 | Botvinnik | Smyslov | Kramnik; Botvinnik | Kasparov | Smyslov; Kasparov | |
| 5 | Capablanca | Karpov; Smyslov | Botvinnik | Karpov; Smyslov | ||
| 6 | Karpov | Kramnik | Smyslov | Fischer |
In 2005,[15] Sonas used Chessmetrics to evaluate historical annual performance ratings and came to the conclusion that Kasparov was dominant for the most years, followed by Karpov and Lasker. He also published the following list of the highest ratings ever attained according to calculations done at the start of each month:[16]
| Rank | Rating | Player |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | 2895 | Bobby Fischer |
| 2 | 2886 | Garry Kasparov |
| 3 | 2885 | Mikhail Botvinnik |
| 4 | 2878 | Emanuel Lasker |
| 5 | 2877 | José Capablanca |
| 6 | 2860 | Alexander Alekhine |
| 7 | 2848 | Anatoly Karpov |
| 8 | 2833 | Viswanathan Anand |
| 9 | 2826 | Vladimir Kramnik |
| 10 | 2826 | Wilhelm Steinitz |
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nameno1had wrote:
USArmyParatrooper wrote:
#1: Borislav Ivanov (Goes from 1900 to beating GM's overnight!)
#2: Gary Kasparov
#3: Bobby Fischer
Most talented chess player of all time: Paul Morphy.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/14/crosswords/chess/player-suspected-of-cheating-is-suspended-for-4-months.html?_r=0
That's what makes him the best. How can you beat a guy who's cheating?
bean_Fischer wrote:
In 2005,[15] Sonas used Chessmetrics to evaluate historical annual performance ratings and came to the conclusion that Kasparov was dominant for the most years, followed by Karpov and Lasker. He also published the following list of the highest ratings ever attained according to calculations done at the start of each month:[16]
RankRatingPlayer1 2895 Bobby Fischer 2 2886 Garry Kasparov 3 2885 Mikhail Botvinnik 4 2878 Emanuel Lasker 5 2877 José Capablanca 6 2860 Alexander Alekhine 7 2848 Anatoly Karpov 8 2833 Viswanathan Anand 9 2826 Vladimir Kramnik 10 2826 Wilhelm SteinitzSo according to that list Carlsen would be #6 in history, and could potentially rise even higher?
USArmyParatrooper wrote:
nameno1had wrote:
USArmyParatrooper wrote:
#1: Borislav Ivanov (Goes from 1900 to beating GM's overnight!)
#2: Gary Kasparov
#3: Bobby Fischer
Most talented chess player of all time: Paul Morphy.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/14/crosswords/chess/player-suspected-of-cheating-is-suspended-for-4-months.html?_r=0
That's what makes him the best. How can you beat a guy who's cheating?
I have cynically answered best player threads that way also. You at least could have used an asterisk...
macer75 wrote:
bean_Fischer wrote:
In 2005,[15] Sonas used Chessmetrics to evaluate historical annual performance ratings and came to the conclusion that Kasparov was dominant for the most years, followed by Karpov and Lasker. He also published the following list of the highest ratings ever attained according to calculations done at the start of each month:[16]
RankRatingPlayer1 2895 Bobby Fischer 2 2886 Garry Kasparov 3 2885 Mikhail Botvinnik 4 2878 Emanuel Lasker 5 2877 José Capablanca 6 2860 Alexander Alekhine 7 2848 Anatoly Karpov 8 2833 Viswanathan Anand 9 2826 Vladimir Kramnik 10 2826 Wilhelm SteinitzSo according to that list Carlsen would be #6 in history, and could potentially rise even higher?
I don't know how Chessmetrics works. Maybe you can find out.
An article by Jeff Sonas at http://en.chessbase.com/post/the-greatest-che-player-of-all-time-part-iv has this illustration:
Jose raul capablanca, Bobby fischer, Garry Kasparov