Club players play book moves and have solid theoretical understanding. In such environment, you get help from people around you. So, you improve very fast. I stop playing chess.com online because it ruins my chess intuition. Like, people play random openings then I am discouraged, the I lose focus and blunder and resign. So until I reach 1400, I will not play online again.
The big difference beween Chess.com and real chess
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Jun 25, 2018
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#3
I've had a couple games where sudden brilliance after a bad start was suspicious, but the vast majority of games online seem fairly played.
What you're really saying is that online there is the opportunity to cheat with an engine that doesn't occur during a OTB game unless the person goes to the lavatory frequently between moves or is getting signals from an observer.
Jun 25, 2018
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#4
AnhVanT wrote:
Club players play book moves and have solid theoretical understanding. In such environment, you get help from people around you. So, you improve very fast. I stop playing chess.com online because it ruins my chess intuition. Like, people play random openings then I am discouraged, the I lose focus and blunder and resign. So until I reach 1400, I will not play online again.
I thought about that too and stopped playing online... But chess club in my city is too expensive so I started playing on site again...
AnhVanT wrote:
Playing random openings is one of the reasons I play chess at all, it makes ppl think from the very second move, its interesting for me,
But cramming some patterns in yo head and playing by the book doesn't intrest me at all, btw way i don't play for a club or professionally, only playing for enjoyment
Club players play book moves and have solid theoretical understanding. In such environment, you get help from people around you. So, you improve very fast. I stop playing chess.com online because it ruins my chess intuition. Like, people play random openings then I am discouraged, the I lose focus and blunder and resign. So until I reach 1400, I will not play online again.
Random openings can also be used to confuse players in order for them to lose their focus and blunder in the game. They also could be a transposition from one opening to another in the form of a random opening. Also, they (probably) improve our thinking skills. So, random openings aren't bad.
AnhVanT wrote:
Club players play book moves and have solid theoretical understanding. In such environment, you get help from people around you. So, you improve very fast. I stop playing chess.com online because it ruins my chess intuition. Like, people play random openings then I am discouraged, the I lose focus and blunder and resign. So until I reach 1400, I will not play online again.
I played my first ever proper OTB tourney (5 min blitz) last evening against a bunch of regular club players. I got absolutely trashed, including by two little girls. But several people told me the best way to improve is to join a club and play club chess and learn from the people around you. They said online chess helps your improvement less and it is also full of people using engines.
So join a club I will soon!
I have played on chess.com for about 5 years and I have only been suspicious on 2-3 occasions. Did you check the suspicious games with an engine?
HashRib wrote:
Random openings can also be used to confuse players in order for them to lose their focus and blunder in the game. They also could be a transposition from one opening to another in the form of a random opening. Also, they (probably) improve our thinking skills. So, random openings aren't bad.
Random openings with strategical purposes are good! But, play 1100-1300, you will see. They make random move and out of the book as soon as move 4. I am learning chess not to beat those guys. I am learning chess to beat people at the club and maybe, get some scholarship in my college. So, no thanks, no online chess 
But if you can't defeat players who play wrong inaccurate openings, how will you beat players who play the opening like a book? I don't follow that logic at all.
JayeshSinhaChess wrote:
But if you can't defeat players who play wrong inaccurate openings, how will you beat players who play the opening like a book? I don't follow that logic at all.
When I play against someone use such a dubious opening, I get upset. LOL, I don't know why but 1...e5 2...Qh4 get me really mad. I just go all out to chase for that lady and get blunders. LOL, I don't know but that kind of opening violation cannot keep me calm!
I would recommend that instead of getting worked up about openings you think are unconventional, just keep calm and destroy them. If unconventional openings are troubling you, then put them in analysis and see where you are going wrong and learn from it.
That way you don't have to basically give up playing online.
@Nc3always On this site, for a lot of people, when you look at their blitz, bullet, standard, or daily, you usually see something not so impressive (like me). But when you look at their tactics rating, the ratings are much higher. This indicates that people who play here are mostly sharp but with no positional skill (unlike me, I have no tactics and no positional skill).
RolandYoingco1 wrote:
People just want to win. Bottom line. Nobody likes a loser. People cheat in every other game on the internet, people download hacks, glitching, code etc to guarantee a win. They don't care about gaining real skill against live opponents in person. They want to win. Your personality type that draws you to competitive games has allot to do with it. Chess players are highly competitive, chess players hate losing. So if they can get away with cheating, they will. Look at physical sports, and people use steroids etc. Everyone wants an advantage, a fix in the game. There is nothing anyone can do about it. Chess.com can keep banning accounts left and right, and these people will just make another one, and be back to sabotage the chess.com servers again. It's a losing battle. I hate losing to cheaters, but it is what it is. The only legit games are in person OTB. There is too much temptation to cheat online. So just expect it, and play on. My 2 cents.
People cheat because they cannot improve anymore so they want to reach higher stats. Improving players don't cheat because they want to reach their peak.
Jul 20, 2018
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Nc3always wrote:
In a rated game at the club generally the game will be evenly fought until one player gains an advantage then 9 out of 10 times he follows that advantage through to a win, with the standard of play being consistent throughout the game.
On here, frequently play people who are clearly devoid of any positional skill but when they start to lose play like tactical grandmasters who tactic their way out of trouble and go on to win the game.
Im hoping it is not engines, but cannot help but be suspicious in many cases.
Which is why I don't play anything slower than 3/0
Even in these games you'll rarely get a cheater, but it's almost all honest players.
I have no idea why people would play e.g. 30 minute games online unless it's with friends or part of some online club where people at least somewhat know each other.
Jul 20, 2018
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I only play correspondence chess as I want duplicate OTB play as closely as possible.
MickinMD wrote:
I've had a couple games where sudden brilliance after a bad start was suspicious, but the vast majority of games online seem fairly played.
What you're really saying is that online there is the opportunity to cheat with an engine that doesn't occur during a OTB game unless the person goes to the lavatory frequently between moves or is getting signals from an observer.
Honestly, for me, sudden brilliance after a bad start, as well as the reverse, seems to be the norm. I play my games on another site now, where I regularly lose games where I have an advantage going into the late middlegame, or even the endgame, but also often end up winning games where at one point I considered resigning.
Preggo_Basashi wrote:
Nc3always wrote:
In a rated game at the club generally the game will be evenly fought until one player gains an advantage then 9 out of 10 times he follows that advantage through to a win, with the standard of play being consistent throughout the game.
On here, frequently play people who are clearly devoid of any positional skill but when they start to lose play like tactical grandmasters who tactic their way out of trouble and go on to win the game.
Im hoping it is not engines, but cannot help but be suspicious in many cases.
Which is why I don't play anything slower than 3/0
Even in these games you'll rarely get a cheater, but it's almost all honest players.
I have no idea why people would play e.g. 30 minute games online unless it's with friends or part of some online club where people at least somewhat know each other.
Jul 20, 2018
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#20
Chess.com is the only chess I can get. It's not perfect but it is very good. I find I get conditioned by looking at all the facilities in chess.com where I just make auto responses and seem to lose the capacity to think. This happens in games and I find myself down in a game. Then I start to think and usually retrieve the situation to a degree and give a better game or sometimes win. Unless I'm bored I stay away from live chess and play daily stuff. I've started entering matches and tournaments and it gives a better discipline.
In a rated game at the club generally the game will be evenly fought until one player gains an advantage then 9 out of 10 times he follows that advantage through to a win, with the standard of play being consistent throughout the game.
On here, frequently play people who are clearly devoid of any positional skill but when they start to lose play like tactical grandmasters who tactic their way out of trouble and go on to win the game.
Im hoping it is not engines, but cannot help but be suspicious in many cases.