The bots are in full force this weekend. Already lost to three blantant cheaters

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telemwecomin

Here is one that it stockfish in disguise:

[public accusations are not allowed -- MS]

Reported - guaranteed nothing will happen

telemwecomin

This is the way it works. Chess.com monitors how many games in a row you lose, maybe a little more complicated. Then, it throws either a losing bot at you, or possibly a weak human opponent that you are likely to beat.

I am now beginning to believe that Chess.com is the one that is the one that is the cheat - they hide behind the "we banned 58K cheats last month". Yeah, LOL, since they don't do anything about 99% of the cheats I report, one wonders what kind of incompetent morons work here

telemwecomin

I should just write my own chess server, one where human beings are guaranteed to be playing other human beings.

It might take a bit to get matched, but if you do, you are guaranteed it's a human being

telemwecomin

Here is an interesting business that tries to detect fraud. I doubt it can be used here, but the point is, there are people trying to guarantee valid users:

https://www.imperium.com/about-us/

LordHunkyhair3

I would expect one with your rating but to go with the conspiracies. Ah well...

LordHunkyhair3

*not

JackBolsen

And rather than have an actual discussion about it they will lock the thread. That's fine we will take it over to Reddit where there are thousands of threads trashing this site for not dealing with the problem.

im_ghostburger
Speaking of bots (not stockfish) the Martin bot (250) is legit unbeatable when u have a timer on.
telemwecomin

So it's completely normal to lose 80% of your games against players that are lower rated or equal rated to you.

Yep, pure logic. Ahahahahahahah

This site is nothing but bots

telemwecomin

This site has what, say a million "active" users. Say that it is true that they ban approximately 6% of users per month for cheating. That means on average, you should get a certain number of reports that some of your opponents were removed.

I haven't gotten a notice of a cheater in months. The numbers are made up

NimzoLarceny

The dude didn't cheat, you blundered a likely won endgame. But of course, the entire site MUST be against you

NimzoLarceny

Pathetic.

telemwecomin

I "routinely" on chess.com lose 200 straight points. Then magically, I work myself back up again.

I once did an experiment. I resigned something like 300 games in a row after move 1. My rating went from like 2100 to 100. Not a peep from chess.com. "Hey Ivan, we've noticed unsual activity in your account". Doesn't matter, my goal was to see if the cheating was all the way down. Yep, it isn't just a the higher levels, it was all the way to 400 - 500 rated players.

And, btw, there are players that are "protected" from bots. Look at some of the youtubers whose rating on chess.com is 2400+, but in real life they aren't even masters. If I were matched against humans 100% of the time, I am certain my rating would be well over 2500.

It would be great to be able to download all the games of a user using an API like in python. One way to tell if they are a bot is their consistency near a rating. Mine drops 200 points all the time, even though I am likely stronger than before.

telemwecomin

On chess.com just like in real chess, there should be a floor to your rating. It can't go 200 points lower than your highest ever. Something like that.

Martin_Stahl

The site does not manipulate pairings to attempt to create create winning or losing streaks. They also do not have site controlled bot accounts in the player pools

Regarding downloading games from an account through an API, that's already possible.

https://www.chess.com/club/chess-com-developer-community

In rating floors, that's just something US Chess does, FIDE doesn't have anything like that.

https://support.chess.com/article/648-what-do-i-need-to-know-about-fair-play-on-chess-com

https://www.chess.com/article/view/online-chess-cheating

https://www.chess.com/article/view/chesscom-update-april-2024?alert=content#FairPlay

The site closed 58,000+ accounts last month for fair play violations and has a full team of staff working on reports along with some automated systems for detection.

https://www.chess.com/article/view/fair-play

That said, discussions of cheating, potential cheating, or cheat detection are not allowed in the general forums. If you would like to discuss join the following club. https://www.chess.com/club/cheating-forum

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