The DDos attack on chess.com has now became so often but nobody seems to care

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MrIslandTman

I was playing this player and about to win then suddenly I lost contact with chess.com, after I regain contact my concentration has been disturbed and thus make a mistake, he later on won the game due to my mistake. This player had used the DDos attack to disturb his opponent which is the technique to  be considered as totally 'Ungentlemanly' in Great Britain standard. I really hope that chess.com will make this site 'Great Again' by reducing the DDos attack to the minimum, thank you very much for your concern! and your help!

Martin_Stahl

The clients don't communicate directly with each other so your opponent doesn't have your connection details in order to impact you. Any traffic they send to the Live server will impact them.

 

https://www.chess.com/blog/News/how-to-adjust-your-live-chess-connection

 

https://support.chess.com/customer/en/portal/articles/1444918-my-internet-connection-is-fine---why-am-i-getting-disconnects-

wanmokewan

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack

Read that, then realize how stupid you sound.

MrIslandTman

It is the software they are using!

MormonRepublican

Chess.com admins dos you

MormonRepublican

Three different isps no ddos spread on my netstat no middlemen on my tracert.  It's the admins.

DenverChess

Something is up. I have experienced this also. I'm an Internet professional, I self-host a multitude of services here that I monitor PROFESSIONALLY. I monitor my Internet connection around the clock. The only time I've suffered a connection loss, ever, is when I'm winning on Chess.com.

While correlation doesn't mean causation the odds of those two always happening together at the same time is too great for it not to be related.

Martin_Stahl
DenverChess wrote:

.... The only time I've suffered a connection loss, ever, is when I'm winning on Chess.com.

While correlation doesn't mean causation the odds of those two always happening together at the same time is too great for it not to be related.

 

Would you even really notice if you had connection issues to the Live serer process when you were losing? It isn't necessarily a local connection issue, but can be but I can say I've rarely experienced connection issues, unless the overall site is having them, but when I have, they can happen at any part of the game.

DenverChess

Yeah you don't know what professionally means. I would notice connection issues 24 hours a day. I monitor my network at the tcp/udp connection level, Internet connection, and services 24/7. The ONLY time I've experienced a connection problem is also the only time I'm on Chess.com and WINNING. I don't know if you just couldn't read that part or what. Not losing only when winning. Not all the time either only with certain players and I block/report them each time (I think it's happened 3 times in the past 2 months). 

It's for sure a problem related to or originating from the site.

SanFranOM

I got flooded for 15 mins that was fun

 

chchchchess_zzz

I get that so frequently, so I am thinking chess.com must have something to do with it. Anyways, as soon as this happens I ping chess.com from cmd and do other ping to DNS. Good thing is it's within the chess.com so even if i loose the connection on chess.com from another PC I can still surf the internet. Constant ping from the device where you are playing chess forces the reply and you reconnect. However I would like to know how it's happening, also it questions the network of chess.com how can people with certain mind set have so much control? Anyways that's beyond me. Definitely they do the DDOS attach from server to the incoming IP of the user they are challenged with. It is a "free" platform so can't complain much. 

Martin_Stahl
chchchchess_zzz wrote:

I get that so frequently, so I am thinking chess.com must have something to do with it. Anyways, as soon as this happens I ping chess.com from cmd and do other ping to DNS. Good thing is it's within the chess.com so even if i loose the connection on chess.com from another PC I can still surf the internet. Constant ping from the device where you are playing chess forces the reply and you reconnect. However I would like to know how it's happening, also it questions the network of chess.com how can people with certain mind set have so much control? Anyways that's beyond me. Definitely they do the DDOS attach from server to the incoming IP of the user they are challenged with. It is a "free" platform so can't complain much. 

 

The clients don't communicate with each other. Your opponent can't get your IP address to even attempt it. They would need full access to the Live server process to do it and if they have that, they're not going to use it to win a few games 

chchchchess_zzz
Martin_Stahl wrote:
chchchchess_zzz wrote:

I get that so frequently, so I am thinking chess.com must have something to do with it. Anyways, as soon as this happens I ping chess.com from cmd and do other ping to DNS. Good thing is it's within the chess.com so even if i loose the connection on chess.com from another PC I can still surf the internet. Constant ping from the device where you are playing chess forces the reply and you reconnect. However I would like to know how it's happening, also it questions the network of chess.com how can people with certain mind set have so much control? Anyways that's beyond me. Definitely they do the DDOS attach from server to the incoming IP of the user they are challenged with. It is a "free" platform so can't complain much. 

 

The clients don't communicate with each other. Your opponent can't get your IP address to even attempt it. They would need full access to the Live server process to do it and if they have that, they're not going to use it to win a few games 

Yup that's what I would think as well, but same instant repeatedly and only within same domain kind of is questionable. 

Darryl_In_Paradise

I agree that something strange does happen with winning games and disconnections.  It happens too often and as pointed out, mostly in winning positions. 

So assuming that the attacker can't get my IP, there still may be other ways to cause a disconnection.  For instance, back in the old IIRC days, you could send malformed message/characters to someone which could cause them to not only be disconnected from the server but even be disconnected completely from the internet.  I've seen this firsthand. 

 I had this happen today during a game (which is why I searched forum for other instances and ended up here) after making a winning move.  I not only lost connection to chess.com, but my internet to the specific computer I was playing on went out as well, while other computers and devices on network were just fine.  I had to restart computer to get it back. I think it's possible that chess.com is forwarding these malformed messages or reactions and that could be causing the issue.

 

 

StumpyBlitzer

https://support.chess.com/article/213-how-do-i-fix-my-disconnect-lag-issues

Could be worth checking out on here 

M1m1c15
Guys, stop trying to make elaborate excuses that people are cheating. Your opponent CANNOT impact your connection in ANYWAY.
SoulArmor

People who don't think DDOS attacks are happening on chess.com must not play much. Look at my profile I play hundreds of blitz games a day. The only time I ever "lose my connection" is when I'm in a winning position or the opponent is low on time. If I play 300+ matches, this will happen 20 or 30 times. Never when I'm losing, never when I'm running out of time. You can literally see it happening. I have 20 seconds the opponent has 5 seconds. I move then all the sudden my clock goes straight from 20 to 10 and now they have 8 seconds? I move again, the clock goes straight to 2 seconds, and now he has six seconds? I move again clock goes to 0 game over.

Martin_Stahl
SoulArmor wrote:

People who don't think DDOS attacks are happening on chess.com must not play much. Look at my profile I play hundreds of blitz games a day. The only time I ever "lose my connection" is when I'm in a winning position or the opponent is low on time. If I play 300+ matches, this will happen 20 or 30 times. Never when I'm losing, never when I'm running out of time. You can literally see it happening. I have 20 seconds the opponent has 5 seconds. I move then all the sudden my clock goes straight from 20 to 10 and now they have 8 seconds? I move again, the clock goes straight to 2 seconds, and now he has six seconds? I move again clock goes to 0 game over.

Your opponent can't impact your connection. The clients never directly communicate.

If a player tries to DDOS the site, they are just as likely to cause themselves to lose than anything else.

Your description is lag or regular disconnects.

https://support.chess.com/article/4720-online-chess-performance-optimizations

Clockwork_Nemesis
I’ve had an account for 12 years and I’ve never had this happen to me
SoulArmor

@Martin_Stahl, if you're correct, then you'd have to explain the phenomenon that it only happens when I'm winning? A basic statistics principles such as the law of large numbers states the more examples you have the more the results will average out. When it only happens during a winning position, and the sample size is in the 1000s (as far a games played), that isn't averaging out. Even one sided figures like 70/30 aren't necessarily outside of the realm of possibility for something random.

99 times out of 100 is not random. If you flip a coin and get tails 99 / 100 times that's not random the coin is clearly weighted