The Reason Bobby Fischer Quit chess

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psychopathkasparov

After falling inlove with the game of chess I stumbled upon the amazing game chess master challenge 11 which had characters that imitate grandmaster play, brilliant chess engine I must say. This chess engine introduced me to Bobby fischer, a chess legend, did my research and found out Fischer quit chess. All of this could not make sense to me untill I watched an interview where Bobby fischer explains to a journalist that he began to hate chess, he said at the top its so competitive you need more tiny improvements than your opponents, more guys working for you. Fischer was correct, I found out this bitter truth when I tried to increase my chess rating myself right here at chess.com, I got jst above 1800 and I realised chess is a dangerous and vicious game at the highest elite level. I was 1800 but to mantian I felt the game is slowly taking away my soul, chess will take away your soul. With Fischer its more complicated because he had a legacy to protect so the idea of risking that legacy was annoying to Fischer. R.IP King Fischer, I wished if you lived long enough to admit to some of your mistakes.

bunicula

Chess takes away your soul? 1800 @chess.com is the highest elite level? Will I ever stop asking questions?

Darth_Algar

Fischer might have said that, but it's a load of bunk. He was insanely competitive and any chess player worth their salt is always looking to improve their game (even if in tiny increments).

 

I believe the true reason Bobby Fischer walked away from chess was because he was driven to win the world title. I'd almost say he was obsessed with it. And I think after he finally won it he simply didn't know what to do with himself. And, I think that, perhaps, he was afraid of failing, of losing the title to another player. So rather than play Karpov, and risk the loss, he walked away without defending the title and thus could say he was never defeated for it.

psychopathkasparov

The greatest chess player that ever lived was a coward, At least Morphy never walked away from any challenger

ponz111

Fischer was a chess genius who gave it his all and then some. When he finally reached his goal he was afraid of losing the title. Not to mention by that time his mental problems would keep him from realizing his previous ability.

Uhohspaghettio1
Darth_Algar wrote:

Fischer might have said that, but it's a load of bunk. He was insanely competitive and any chess player worth their salt is always looking to improve their game (even if in tiny increments).

 

This is garbage. Plenty of chess players quit chess and refused to play again, look at Morphy, Kasparov, tons and tons of them. And tons of young players, and with no ambitions to improve. Kasparov specifically said the reason he gave up was because he felt he fulfilled all there was to in the chess world, and that's when people retire many other sports as well. Don't you feel ashamed at all to make such a bad post and point people in the wrong direction? Please be more careful in your posts.  

 

Fischer of course has a point. However it is only something you would notice at at least 2200. Before that, it's going to be all about honing the technique. At 1800 black is winning almost as much as white.

Darth_Algar

Kasparov retired from active competition yes. After, what, three decades and having held the world title for 15 years. Note: however, that he did not walk away from the game, nor did he refuse to play again.

 

Whatever point you may have thought you were making is, frankly, moronic and had absolutely nothing to do with my point. I imagine you actually realize that, but it seems you can't help but troll.

LouStule
psychopathkasparov wrote:

After falling inlove with the game of chess I stumbled upon the amazing game chess master challenge 11 which had characters that imitate grandmaster play, brilliant chess engine I must say. This chess engine introduced me to Bobby fischer, a chess legend, did my research and found out Fischer quit chess. All of this could not make sense to me untill I watched an interview where Bobby fischer explains to a journalist that he began to hate chess, he said at the top its so competitive you need more tiny improvements than your opponents, more guys working for you. Fischer was correct, I found out this bitter truth when I tried to increase my chess rating myself right here at chess.com, I got jst above 1800 and I realised chess is a dangerous and vicious game at the highest elite level. I was 1800 but to mantian I felt the game is slowly taking away my soul, chess will take away your soul. With Fischer its more complicated because he had a legacy to protect so the idea of risking that legacy was annoying to Fischer. R.IP King Fischer, I wished if you lived long enough to admit to some of your mistakes.

People quit golf for the same reasons. Neither one can be mastered.

johnnykontant

I dont think Fischer ever really quit, but rather drift away. He was clearly deeply ill towards the end, and this had likely already begun by the early 70s. He had sort of disappeared before, but always came back stronger. I think his main motiation was the world chapionship title, which he felt should be his. He was probably the best player for many years before actually getting the title, but was ofcourse stronger than ever in 1972. Ratings werent around for most of his career, so it is logical he wanted the title to prove once and for all his superiority. I think of him mostly as atragic figure, and with great curiosity of how the story could have continued if he kept playing and training with the same intensity.

GM_DR_FLASH

 Fischer went mad  with insecurity.

tygxc

Fischer loved and hated chess at the same time.
After the Curaçao 1962 Candidates' Tournament he vowed never to play a candidates' tournament again. He got his way and FIDE changed to Candidates' Matches.
He withdrew from the Sousse Interzonal 1967 while leading because of some dispute.
He did not play in 1969.
Because of some dispute he refused to play the US National Championship that was a zonal tournament and qualifier for the Palma de Mallorca Interzonal 1970, but he got a spot while Byrne withdrew in his favor.
He was reluctant to play the World Championship match against Spassky. Kissinger, Slater and Saidy persuaded him.
He lost the first game, forfeited the second game and booked 3 flights home. He was persuaded to play the 3rd game. He won the game and then the match.
He was willing to play the Nice olympiad, but FIDE refused his conditions, like a separate playing venue for him as world champion, his opponent, and spectators.
He was willing to play Karpov for the world title, but FIDE rejected his demands: a match to 10 wins draws not counting and Fischer retaining his title in case of 9-9.

EscherehcsE

I love a good necro Fischer thread...

sassygirltebritish
Darth_Algar wrote:

Kasparov retired from active competition yes. After, what, three decades and having held the world title for 15 years. Note: however, that he did not walk away from the game, nor did he refuse to play again.

Whatever point you may have thought you were making is, frankly, moronic and had absolutely nothing to do with my point. I imagine you actually realize that, but it seems you can't help but troll.

he 100 percent did walk away from chess he created a idoit organization called pca to compete with fide for some reaosn instead of defending against nigel short he wanted the title all to himself and more moeny from 1985 to 1993 i believe it was very clear but 1995 kasporov wasnt really as dominate as you would suggest and in 2000 the chess world was reavealed how little kasporov really dominated his reign is more of botviunick