they jump, move unlike any other piece, and can create unstoppable knight forks.
The secret about Knight
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Mebeme wrote:
they jump, move unlike any other piece, and can create unstoppable knight forks.
hahaha.. common Mr. Mebeme everyone knows that but the point is how did the knight come up with such terrifying moves. In real life, stories have been told about the splendid of knight warrious. Where they born knights or trained knights.. a topical example is The British legend of King Arthur!
it thought on its head :P (Alice through the looking glass(book))
I don't think the knight jumps over pieces any more than, say, the bishop does when going through a diagonal line of pawns. The point is, there are no squares inbetween the knight's original square and destination square along the direction of travel. So, there are no pieces to jump over.
The knight moves one square at a time in each of the 8 directions at 22.5, 65.5, 110.5, 155.5, 195.5, 245.5, 290.5, and 325.5 degrees.
Open your brain, son.
secret about the knight is the smothered mate, mate.
Also, only with the help of a knight can you perform a double check!
"The point is, there are no squares inbetween the knight's original square and destination square along the direction of travel. So, there are no pieces to jump over."
This is inconsistent. If you are treating the knight's movement as an infantesimal line in the directions you have specified then the knight "jumps" over/ along a distance of 1.118 (sqare root of 5/4) units of squares occupied by other pieces. The bishop, jumps over 0 (i.e. it does NOT jump).
If you propose that a piece maintains its square shape when moving then it would be impossible for a bishop to move between the gap in a pawn chain, whereas the knight still has no trouble moving from its starting position on the board.
In both respects the knight can be considered a jumping piece whereas the bishop not at all.
broze
EDIT: Unless of course you define piece movement as along the lines of the chessboard, but that's just plain weird.
Spinatai wrote:
Also, only with the help of a knight can you perform a double check!
Not true, although it's certainly more common with a knight. You can make double-check with any 2 pieces that don't share the same type of move. (You couldn't double check with a queen and a rook, but a bishop and a rook would be able to) Even a rook and a pawn can double-check in the right circumstances.
Umm, JoishiBoido here a double check can occur with rook and queen with Rc2+
While the queen is the strongest piece (making it the favorite of many players), it must fear attack from all of the other pieces. In other words, it's as vulnerable as it is powerful. (That's why it is typically a bad idea to develop the queen early; your opponent can gain a lot of tempi chasing it around.)
On top of that, queens need open areas, while knights can usually move around all types of positions, open or closed. Even when it is not in an optimal spot, knights can be moved around much quicker than the queen early in the game. A knight's ability to "jump" over pieces also creates many more tactical possibilities. Translation: It can be put to use much quicker and easier, with almost identical force.
thats a cold hard lie, rich.
broze wrote:
Umm, JoishiBoido here a double check can occur with rook and queen with Rc2+
Thank you for correcting me. I was thinking queen in front of rook when I typed that up.
rich wrote:
But the Bishop is better than the Knight in just about every position.
1) That's a lie. Knights do much better in closed positions that bishops.
2) That's beside the point. We're discussing why knights are more dreadful than queens.
your lying rich.
Knights seem even more handy to me, you must not grasp the value of them.
Bishops rule also, but are not better than knights, may be equal but not better, bishops have strength, and knights are nimble.
@ rich
You're right. Bishops are more long-ranged. However, that also means that they don't do well in closed positions. Knights dominate Bishops when the position is closed. Besides, a single bishop can get hemmed in by pawns. Knights don't have that problem.
While Bishop pairs are better than knight pairs, the point of that rule is that trading a bishop for a knight is a slight, long-term advantage to the one who traded off his knight, since a Bishop is usually better in the endgame. However, I still find that a knight is as useful as a bishop (if not more) during the opening and middlegame.
Besides, if you think that the knight isn't as powerful, that makes it even more useful for your opponent.
I was asked by a little kid - why is the knight most dreadful and not the queen, honestly i couldn't say much because the character of a knight is unfold. The knight is a potential three in one personality is this true... could anyone who knows a little about the knight's secret come up and make this a settle case!
Much love thanks.