The touch move rule

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Klee

What's the reasoning behind the touch move rule ? Is it to stop players from figdetting ? Is putting a finger on a piece really that distracting ? Why should the other player care until the move is made ? Is it to train players to analyse in the head rather than seeing the position on the board ? Or is it to prevent the player from messing up the board ?

A lot of "silly" questions here - I'm just curious of its origins 

 

 

 

 


Loomis

The board should be available to both players to examine, no matter whose turn it is. If a player has their hand on one of the pieces, that is distracting. Even worse is a player who will pick up a piece, put it down on another square and keep a finger on it while they decide if they want to move there.

 

Also, visualizing the chess board after the pieces have been moved is part of the skill of making a chess move, so the touch move rule just nips in the bud any playing around with the board. 


TalFan
Is it against the rules ( apart from fact it is very annoying ) , when a player takes the piece they want to move  than waves it around in the air while deciding fo 10 minutes where it will go ?
Loomis

That would fall under distracting the opponent, which makes it against the rules.

Markle
 In my opinion touch move teaches you to be a little more patient before you move the way i learned was to sit on your hands so you cant move without thinking about it first.
lkjqwerrrreeedd
i don't like the rule but in tournaments it does not matter what you think the games are played by the rules and if you break them you will pay the consequences. because i have only ever played "non-formal" chess up until now the recent tournaments i have been to i lost games to weaker players on technicalitys which annoyed me very much.
JuliusH

Yeah I think it should be enforced if someone is trying to be distracting, but if it's just a quick error - a brush of a piece - that's b.s. (and no I don't mean bachelors of science). It's irritating when someone will try to get whatever advantage they can. apart from playing solid chess.

In any over the board game that an opponent has accidentally left their clock running after they moved I pointed it out to them...not because I'm some the patron saint of chess but because I wouldn't want to win that way.


Loomis
Julius, the touch move rule does not apply to accidental touching of a piece.
JuliusH
I certinly hope not. Looking around online I saw some discussion on it, and it says if the arbiter excuses it as an accident you're fine. I just wonder about blitz and the like, or a tournament where there isn't a person watching every table.
mikmak181
What if you touch a peice that can not be moved?
lkjqwerrrreeedd
i agree with julius i don't want to win by playing "technically" it's stupid i think rules like that can sometimes hold down the better player. i tell people when they leave there clock running because i believe it would be the height of bad manners to not tell them simply to give yourself an advantage.
Assullt_sk

Hello

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I will touch you

MARattigan

It's the only thing in the FIDE laws that limits you to moving only your own pieces. If you 'have the move' and you touch an opponent's piece you must capture it, which can be done only with one of your own pieces.

(Actually they also say you 'have the move' when your opponents move has been 'made', which is obviously not true at the start, so feel free to play 1.g7-g5.)

MARattigan
mikmak181 wrote:
What if you touch a peice that can not be moved?

It tells you what happens here https://handbook.fide.com/chapter/E012023 (Art.4).

If it's an opponent's piece that cannot be moved you must capture it if you can and you 'have the move' (see previous post).