Thinking in chess notation - Chess Forums

ieatqueen

Sep 24, 2018

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I can read and write algebraic chess notation but since I'm not too familiar with it I can't calculate or analyze using chess notation. How important is this chess skill?

ieatqueen

Sep 24, 2018

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DeirdreSkye wrote:

I am not sure what's the problem is. You can't read a sideline and calculate it without moving the pieces?

If you are stuyding on a real board it's important. If you don't , then it's not that much.

But it is very easy. Start with very simple endgame positions(King and pawn vs King) or some elementary checkmates(2 bishops vs king is a good one). Try to calculate the sidelines then play them on the board. It didn't took me more than a couple of hours.

I'm sorry I've been playing for less than a year and I don't even know what a sideline is. Also, I think you misunderstood my question. I'm talking about calculating like this: https://youtu.be/2R1mIJ80CJg?t=2948

ieatqueen

Sep 24, 2018

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AChessSpartan wrote:

I compare it to moving to a new city and gradually knowing the roads to take to get to certain places.

My thoughts exactly. Right now I can calculate just fine obviously, like someone who can move around the city even though not knowing the names of the roads.

I want to be able to do what Nakamura is doing here: https://youtu.be/2R1mIJ80CJg?t=2948

ieatqueen

Sep 24, 2018

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DeirdreSkye wrote:

Nakamura does it automatically, he doesn't really think for the chess notation. Every move he calculates immediatelly gets a notation. It's unconscious.

Of course he's no thinking about the notation. He's calculating the lines while blurting out the move notations subconsciously.

Daniel1115

Sep 24, 2018

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ieatqueen wrote:

DeirdreSkye wrote:

Nakamura does it automatically, he doesn't really think for the chess notation. Every move he calculates immediatelly gets a notation. It's unconscious.

Of course he's no thinking about the notation. He's calculating the lines while blurting out the move notations subconsciously.

You dont need to calculate using chess notation. When people calculate with it, it is for the benefit of viewers/listeners.

With time it will become natural to correlate the squares with the notation. None of it is necessary to play well.

Alltheusernamestaken

Sep 24, 2018

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DeirdreSkye escribió:

I am not sure what's the problem is. You can't read a sideline and calculate it without moving the pieces?

If you are stuyding on a real board it's important. If you don't , then it's not that much.

But it is very easy. Start with very simple endgame positions(King and pawn vs King) or some elementary checkmates(2 bishops vs king is a good one). Try to calculate the sidelines then play them on the board. It didn't took me more than a couple of hours.

are you gonna answer every post like if you were an expert? There's no need to calculate fast using only the notation

Daniel1115

Sep 24, 2018

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DeirdreSkye wrote:

Daniel1115 wrote:

ieatqueen wrote:

DeirdreSkye wrote:

Nakamura does it automatically, he doesn't really think for the chess notation. Every move he calculates immediatelly gets a notation. It's unconscious.

Of course he's no thinking about the notation. He's calculating the lines while blurting out the move notations subconsciously.

You dont need to calculate using chess notation. When people calculate with it, it is for the benefit of viewers/listeners.

With time it will become natural to correlate the squares with the notation. None of it is necessary to play well.

He needs to calculate using chess notation. It will help him calculate sidelines from books when he studies.If he can't calculate using chess notation it will be very difficult to study efficiently. All skills in chess are connected and affect one or more other skills. Nothing is indipendent or isolated.

I think if a sideline is given in a book most players will need to set up a board, visualizing the situation will not give most players a clear enough idea of the position. Eventually he will learn to quickly correlate chess moves with notation, but it is not a priority.

Alltheusernamestaken

Sep 24, 2018

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DeirdreSkye wrote:

Alltheusernamestaken wrote:

DeirdreSkye escribió:

I am not sure what's the problem is. You can't read a sideline and calculate it without moving the pieces?

If you are stuyding on a real board it's important. If you don't , then it's not that much.

But it is very easy. Start with very simple endgame positions(King and pawn vs King) or some elementary checkmates(2 bishops vs king is a good one). Try to calculate the sidelines then play them on the board. It didn't took me more than a couple of hours.

are you gonna answer every post like if you were an expert? There's no need to calculate fast using only the notation

With so many ignorants like you saying nonsense I actually feel like an expert!

You are the most ignorant here mate... the thing is that you don't realize it.