This is all rigged, they use bots to play you

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DontYaJustHateMyPlay

The same pattern exists.

1. You make an account.

2. You win easily against 800 retards.

3. You jump to 1300-1400.

4. You play 1-3 wonderful games, learn something and might lose. Wonderful experience.

5. Then you play people a little lower rated. They demolish you. Maybe you blundered.

6. You play some more and you still can't win.

7. Somehow, the people you played during games 4-6 never exist. They become computer Stockfish.

8. When you look at their profile you see they have gold star membership. They just want you to pay into the system because you keep losing to a bot. They want you to think you are playing a human and you need to "improve".

Solution = close account, create a new one, enjoy games 4-8. After that, it is all rigged. 

The solution is to enjoy chess and not be a guinea pig over and over and over and over and over again.

Martin_Stahl
DontYaJustHateMyPlay wrote:

The same pattern exists.

1. You make an account.

2. You win easily against 800 retards.

3. You jump to 1300-1400.

4. You play 1-3 wonderful games, learn something and might lose. Wonderful experience.

5. Then you play people a little lower rated. They demolish you. Maybe you blundered.

6. You play some more and you still can't win.

7. Somehow, the people you played during games 4-6 never exist. They become computer Stockfish.

8. When you look at their profile you see they have gold star membership. They just want you to pay into the system because you keep losing to a bot. They want you to think you are playing a human and you need to "improve".

Solution = close account, create a new one, enjoy games 4-8. After that, it is all rigged.

The solution is to enjoy chess and not be a guinea pig over and over and over and over and over again.

The site does not use bots in the player pools.

medelpad
Embarrassing thing to post
gyatikus
Martin_Stahl wrote:
DontYaJustHateMyPlay wrote:

The same pattern exists.

1. You make an account.

2. You win easily against 800 retards.

3. You jump to 1300-1400.

4. You play 1-3 wonderful games, learn something and might lose. Wonderful experience.

5. Then you play people a little lower rated. They demolish you. Maybe you blundered.

6. You play some more and you still can't win.

7. Somehow, the people you played during games 4-6 never exist. They become computer Stockfish.

8. When you look at their profile you see they have gold star membership. They just want you to pay into the system because you keep losing to a bot. They want you to think you are playing a human and you need to "improve".

Solution = close account, create a new one, enjoy games 4-8. After that, it is all rigged.

The solution is to enjoy chess and not be a guinea pig over and over and over and over and over again.

The site does not use bots in the player pools.

I have genuinely never seen a bigger npc than you. What is the point in you just replying with the same copy paste answers to every critism of the website? Majority of the people i play have created their accounts within the last 3-4 month and only play 1 time control. The other that are a little older have hit their new highest peaks ever in february or january this year and you are telling me that this pattern is random. This website clearly uses bots and matchmaking systems to manipulate outcomes in order to increase play time and it is the easiest thing to see. You just commenting no we don't everywhere is comical as if you would even ever admit to that. Pretty sure you are not even a real person either....

Atisbo

I haven't really managed to win easily against the 800 retards, as they have failed to show themselves. Unfortunately some of my opponents have been damn good. Thus I have been unable to execute this programme.

QathetMike

your name calling in point #2 shows you lack the intelligence to actually have a clue of what you speak.

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biggest issue on this site is the ego of sore losers. Can't just take the loss, without turning it into a conspiracy.

Redhatcc

I was about to come to the forums and post the same thing. 
There are TONS of people on this site who cheat. They turn on the engine when they are in a stuck situation, and turn it off when they feel more comfortable. Anti-cheating algos can't pick up on that. Here is how I KNOW. 
1. I have friends who play on here. They are casual online but serious at their local clubs and OTB games. They say online chess shouldn't be taken so seriously, and they use it for "educational purposes" and then fall back on "it's just a game man, chill". 
2. I have a WCM and had a GM coach who are helping me with my gameplay. I am not the greatest by far, but I love the game so much I dedicate myself to studying every day. Some of THEIR OTHER STUDENTS admit to using online browser extensions and cheating methods. When their younger studnets who are teens or below get stuck in a situation, they get frustrated and some of the younger ones cry. Their parents will either help them with the next move, or take over the game entirely, in a nod towards "its for learning". The younger kids do not know they need to lose, therefore they will flip on the engine for the next couple of moves, or just leave it on. 
3. FB groups are filled with tips and tutorials on how to use engines without getting caught. Other groups that are more serious post screenshots after screenshots of players cheating. 
I am finishing up my daily games and I am gone from this site. Made my decision a few weeks back. Already canceled my subscription. I encourage you do to the same. When Chess.com starts losing subs and money, they will figure out something.

gyatikus
QathetMike wrote:

your name calling in point #2 shows you lack the intelligence to actually have a clue of what you speak.

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biggest issue on this site is the ego of sore losers. Can't just take the loss, without turning it into a conspiracy.

How about you play a game or two before you start commenting on forums eyyy bud?

blackmore324
Redhatcc wrote:

I was about to come to the forums and post the same thing. 
There are TONS of people on this site who cheat. They turn on the engine when they are in a stuck situation, and turn it off when they feel more comfortable. Anti-cheating algos can't pick up on that. Here is how I KNOW. 
1. I have friends who play on here. They are casual online but serious at their local clubs and OTB games. They say online chess shouldn't be taken so seriously, and they use it for "educational purposes" and then fall back on "it's just a game man, chill". 
2. I have a WCM and had a GM coach who are helping me with my gameplay. I am not the greatest by far, but I love the game so much I dedicate myself to studying every day. Some of THEIR OTHER STUDENTS admit to using online browser extensions and cheating methods. When their younger studnets who are teens or below get stuck in a situation, they get frustrated and some of the younger ones cry. Their parents will either help them with the next move, or take over the game entirely, in a nod towards "its for learning". The younger kids do not know they need to lose, therefore they will flip on the engine for the next couple of moves, or just leave it on. 
3. FB groups are filled with tips and tutorials on how to use engines without getting caught. Other groups that are more serious post screenshots after screenshots of players cheating. 
I am finishing up my daily games and I am gone from this site. Made my decision a few weeks back. Already canceled my subscription. I encourage you do to the same. When Chess.com starts losing subs and money, they will figure out something.

Play lower time controls, it is pretty difficult to cheat with only a couple seconds on the clock. Chances are you will be just as bad. What will you blame then?

chesstimetravaling
gyatikus wrote:
QathetMike wrote:

your name calling in point #2 shows you lack the intelligence to actually have a clue of what you speak.

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biggest issue on this site is the ego of sore losers. Can't just take the loss, without turning it into a conspiracy.

How about you play a game or two before you start commenting on forums eyyy bud?

really bro, youre only playing bots, how do you know whos real or not? maybe youre some advanced ai whos designed to play against other bots and reply in human forms :/

Saltyirishmen
Martin_Stahl wrote:
DontYaJustHateMyPlay wrote:

The same pattern exists.

1. You make an account.

2. You win easily against 800 retards.

3. You jump to 1300-1400.

4. You play 1-3 wonderful games, learn something and might lose. Wonderful experience.

5. Then you play people a little lower rated. They demolish you. Maybe you blundered.

6. You play some more and you still can't win.

7. Somehow, the people you played during games 4-6 never exist. They become computer Stockfish.

8. When you look at their profile you see they have gold star membership. They just want you to pay into the system because you keep losing to a bot. They want you to think you are playing a human and you need to "improve".

Solution = close account, create a new one, enjoy games 4-8. After that, it is all rigged.

The solution is to enjoy chess and not be a guinea pig over and over and over and over and over again.

The site does not use bots in the player pools.

How would we know? I have noticed a similar pattern.

gyatikus
blackmore324 wrote:
Redhatcc wrote:

I was about to come to the forums and post the same thing. 
There are TONS of people on this site who cheat. They turn on the engine when they are in a stuck situation, and turn it off when they feel more comfortable. Anti-cheating algos can't pick up on that. Here is how I KNOW. 
1. I have friends who play on here. They are casual online but serious at their local clubs and OTB games. They say online chess shouldn't be taken so seriously, and they use it for "educational purposes" and then fall back on "it's just a game man, chill". 
2. I have a WCM and had a GM coach who are helping me with my gameplay. I am not the greatest by far, but I love the game so much I dedicate myself to studying every day. Some of THEIR OTHER STUDENTS admit to using online browser extensions and cheating methods. When their younger studnets who are teens or below get stuck in a situation, they get frustrated and some of the younger ones cry. Their parents will either help them with the next move, or take over the game entirely, in a nod towards "its for learning". The younger kids do not know they need to lose, therefore they will flip on the engine for the next couple of moves, or just leave it on. 
3. FB groups are filled with tips and tutorials on how to use engines without getting caught. Other groups that are more serious post screenshots after screenshots of players cheating. 
I am finishing up my daily games and I am gone from this site. Made my decision a few weeks back. Already canceled my subscription. I encourage you do to the same. When Chess.com starts losing subs and money, they will figure out something.

Play lower time controls, it is pretty difficult to cheat with only a couple seconds on the clock. Chances are you will be just as bad. What will you blame then?

There is literally a chrome extention which instantly shows the best move the second your opponent plays and you think cheating is hard? How naive

blackmore324
gyatikus wrote:
blackmore324 wrote:
Redhatcc wrote:

I was about to come to the forums and post the same thing. 
There are TONS of people on this site who cheat. They turn on the engine when they are in a stuck situation, and turn it off when they feel more comfortable. Anti-cheating algos can't pick up on that. Here is how I KNOW. 
1. I have friends who play on here. They are casual online but serious at their local clubs and OTB games. They say online chess shouldn't be taken so seriously, and they use it for "educational purposes" and then fall back on "it's just a game man, chill". 
2. I have a WCM and had a GM coach who are helping me with my gameplay. I am not the greatest by far, but I love the game so much I dedicate myself to studying every day. Some of THEIR OTHER STUDENTS admit to using online browser extensions and cheating methods. When their younger studnets who are teens or below get stuck in a situation, they get frustrated and some of the younger ones cry. Their parents will either help them with the next move, or take over the game entirely, in a nod towards "its for learning". The younger kids do not know they need to lose, therefore they will flip on the engine for the next couple of moves, or just leave it on. 
3. FB groups are filled with tips and tutorials on how to use engines without getting caught. Other groups that are more serious post screenshots after screenshots of players cheating. 
I am finishing up my daily games and I am gone from this site. Made my decision a few weeks back. Already canceled my subscription. I encourage you do to the same. When Chess.com starts losing subs and money, they will figure out something.

Play lower time controls, it is pretty difficult to cheat with only a couple seconds on the clock. Chances are you will be just as bad. What will you blame then?

There is literally a chrome extention which instantly shows the best move the second your opponent plays and you think cheating is hard? How naive

But you presumably have to look at the extension to see what the move is before making the move yourself on the board. There is also the time you have to wait for the engine to reach a sufficient depth in order to play the optimal move in the position. That is an easy 3-5 seconds extra per move. In a bullet game thats game over. If you aren't premoving most of your moves you ain't going to win. Unless this extension literally plays the game for you without requiring your inputs, I don't see an issue.

Martin_Stahl

The site doesn't use bots in the player pools. That doesn't mean that there aren't some members using bots.

If you suspect someone, report them.

https://support.chess.com/article/209-how-do-i-report-someone

https://support.chess.com/article/648-what-do-i-need-to-know-about-fair-play-on-chess-com

https://www.chess.com/article/view/online-chess-cheating

https://www.chess.com/article/view/chesscom-update-march-2024#FairPlay

The site closed 57,000 accounts last month for fair play violations and has a full team of staff working on reports along with some automated systems for detection.

https://www.chess.com/article/view/fair-play

That said, discussions of cheating, potential cheating, or cheat detection are not allowed in the general forums. If you would like to discuss join the following club. https://www.chess.com/club/cheating-forum

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