Tournament Question: what happens to your score sheet?

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machinecraig

In a USCF rated tournament - what happens to your score sheet after you finish a game? Do you get to keep it, or is it collected by the TDs?

Markle

You generally give one copy to the TD and you keep a copy

machinecraig

Hi Markle, would you say it's the norm for the tournament to provide carbon duplicate style score sheets? Or is it usually up to the player to bring his own score sheets?

vowles_23
Markle wrote:

You generally give one copy to the TD and you keep a copy


If there is a carbon copy, you hand in that one to the TD. If not, you keep your move sheet.

TheOldReb

If you supplied your own score sheet I dont believe the TD can take/keep it. They can demand to see/check it for whatever reason but have to give it back. When scoresheets are used that have a carbon coy the TD usually keeps a copy . If the organizers provide the scoresheets then thats a different kettle of fish. 

vowles_23
machinecraig wrote:

Hi Markle, would you say it's the norm for the tournament to provide carbon duplicate style score sheets? Or is it usually up to the player to bring his own score sheets?


I don't know what it is like in America, but I've never played in a tournament where you are expected to bring your own score sheet.
If you are worried about it though, you can always bring a piece of paper in your pocket. But remember your pen! 

machinecraig

Thanks all - I'll bring some just in case.

bobbyDK

in the  fide handbook it says it is up to the TD since it is the property of the TD.

in most tournaments I've been in the TD does not want a copy of the scoresheet.
only those TD who publish the games on the net want a copy.
some bring a scoresheet-book if the TD allow it, and the TD cannot get a copy of a scoresheet book sheet.

DavidMertz1

According to USCF rule 15G, "The scoresheets of all games in a tournament are the property of the sponsering organization(s).  If the organizer requires that a copy of each game score be submitted by the players, duplicate scoresheets must be provided, and players who fail to submit scoresheets may be penalized."

In the tournaments I've been in, they've never requested a copy.

PrawnEatsPrawn

If duplicate score-sheets are provided it works like this:

 

1. On finishing the game, both players sign the other's score-sheet.

 

2. The winning player returns both copies (one from each player) to the TD's table (in the event of a draw, it's White's job), usually uttering something along the line of "Board 16, win for White", to the person with the clipboard.

 

Obviously, if the winning player is disabled or very old, then the losing player returns the copies.

 

There are local variations.

 

Arrive early for round one and be sure to read the "local rules", usually a printed sheet, pinned to the entrance door and by the section cross-tables.

vowles_23

Good luck in your tournament, it is always very exciting to be playing OTB!

TheOldReb
DavidMertz1 wrote:

According to USCF rule 15G, "The scoresheets of all games in a tournament are the property of the sponsering organization(s).  If the organizer requires that a copy of each game score be submitted by the players, duplicate scoresheets must be provided, and players who fail to submit scoresheets may be penalized."

In the tournaments I've been in, they've never requested a copy.


I dont see how this can apply unless the sponsoring organization is furnishing the scoresheet(s). 

GatheredDust
TheMouse wrote:
vowles_23 wrote:
Markle wrote:

You generally give one copy to the TD and you keep a copy


If there is a carbon copy, you hand in that one to the TD. If not, you keep your move sheet.


In my experience if there is a carbon copy then you keep that and hand the top sheets in.


In my tourney a month ago, we handed in the carbon copy. Although, handing in the top sheet does make sense: My carbon copy was basically a bunch of smudged graphite with a few legible letters and numbers Embarassed

ozzie_c_cobblepot

In the tournaments I play, which have TD-supplied carbon copy style sheets, the instructions are for everybody in the top section to leave a copy of their game, and for other sections to leave a copy of the game if they feel that it is "publish-worthy".

When I leave a copy of the scoresheet I leave the copy, not the original. Let's face it, it's my game. I use it later (enter into Chessbase) they don't.

vowles_23
GatheredDust wrote:
TheMouse wrote:
vowles_23 wrote:
Markle wrote:

You generally give one copy to the TD and you keep a copy


If there is a carbon copy, you hand in that one to the TD. If not, you keep your move sheet.


In my experience if there is a carbon copy then you keep that and hand the top sheets in.


In my tourney a month ago, we handed in the carbon copy. Although, handing in the top sheet does make sense: My carbon copy was basically a bunch of smudged graphite with a few legible letters and numbers


Haha. Maybe it changes from country to country, or something. The original would make more sense I agree.

DavidMertz1
Reb wrote:
DavidMertz1 wrote:

According to USCF rule 15G, "The scoresheets of all games in a tournament are the property of the sponsering organization(s).  If the organizer requires that a copy of each game score be submitted by the players, duplicate scoresheets must be provided, and players who fail to submit scoresheets may be penalized."

In the tournaments I've been in, they've never requested a copy.


I dont see how this can apply unless the sponsoring organization is furnishing the scoresheet(s). 


That's probably why it says "duplicate scoresheets must be provided"?