Trash talking - Does it belong on the chess board?
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Aug 27, 2007
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#42
I disapprove of any and all trash talk during a chess game. I don't even like it in my fantasy sports leagues so I certainly don't like it here. I thought chess was supposed to be a classy game. I just don't understand why anyone would take part in trash talk. The person delivering the insults might not mean to be offensive but the person on the other end might not like it.
Sep 5, 2007
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#44
i've had a few talking trash at various stages of the game. Usually players with a scoring of 1200 or less. It starts of ;
"cmon hurry up" "make your move now" then can get aggressive talk from my opponent.. I have replied reminding them "this is a 3 day game not a 3 minute game" ... they have gone offline and timed out... ah well ..
The people who tend to make a lot of noise during a game with me, usually cannot spell, use the "mobile phone text speak" {hry up mk ur mov} 
One point i would like to make though.... in the short time i've been on this site, [and other sites] i've talked with numerous players who haave been polite, courteous, helpful and friendly, many of whom i still keep in touch with.
At one point, i was playing someone from another country [another language], as the game ended, i went onto a language translation website and got the translation for "thanks for the game" and sent it to them.
Thankfully the courteous people who play chess far out-way the few "trash chatters".
I feel that trash talking shouldn't be in chess unless it's you and your friend playing, or you're a chess hustler in a park. Honest to god, hearing a chess hustler trash talk (or play chess at all) is one of the neatest things I've ever seen. I also feel that trash talking online's not that big of a deal, cause it's online....
However, in a tournament or rated game I would be pretty pissed off if my opponent tried to trash talk. I'd probably say something like, "let your pieces do the talking". Or, "Talking's not going to help you calculate out this position".
trash talk is ok as long as you dont say the "bad" word and the "sick" one in the "sick" way
We should all be respectful of our opponent when playing chess, because if you have not researched who you are playing, as I often do not. You should be aware that there are many young people playing on this site, and they do not need to read anything that is in any way trashy, and not respectful or not relevant to chess.
medievalchess wrote: I consider respect and courtesy an imporatant aspect of playing. Insulting your opponent solves nothing...it only makes you look dumb.
Exactly my attitude.
cheese_master wrote: trash talk is ok as long as you dont say the "bad" word and the "sick" one in the "sick" way
the "bad" word, the "sick" one; what are you 7 years old?
J/K Now that is trash talk!!
I don't care about someone's freedom of speech when they are talking to me, I didn't adopt the First Amendment as my personal chat room rule. If someone decides to trash talk during my game two things happen: I strictly follow the move rule (1 move in three days becomes exactly that), and I begin a pompous lecture on the history of chess. A draw offer or resignation quickly follows and I accept as I suck at chess and any ratings help is appreciated.
syrianchessmaster wrote: cheese_master wrote: trash talk is ok as long as you dont say the "bad" word and the "sick" one in the "sick" way
the "bad" word, the "sick" one; what are you 7 years old?
J/K Now that is trash talk!!
It's all good as long as you don't wear the bad color
I eyewitnessed a person pulling a knife on another player in a chess match. It was caused by trash talk. On a seperate occasion I eyewitnessed a man barely control himself from doing violence to the skrawny person who was trash talking at him while they played. He wound up scattering the pieces all over the universe. (My pieces, by the way, so I had to clean it up.) A third time two people both got within a hair of violence during a bughouse game but then that's just bughouse.
I think that because chess helps teach dealing with fristration is why they did not start swinging. But trash talk and its results are never a pretty sight to a bystander.
As most adults know, there such things as fighting words. Most countries (including the US) have laws that recognize this and they count as an assault that justifies self-defense.
I myself have always kept a running monologue going while I play. My opponents love it because most of my kibitzing is comedy-based, and matches their interests. I always build up slowly though and it usually takes knowing someone a few months before I can judge whether they want me to remain silent or not. I never tell my opponents that they made a bad move or weak move even if its a true blunder. But I am always lamenting my own hideous, patzeresque moves.
On the internet, I mostly say "Oops." and handshake.
I say, "If you wouldn't say it to the person giving you a job interview, then hush."
RGE
Nov 19, 2007
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#53
I am not a trash talker; however, one time, playing chess at another site, I got into trash talking with my opponent, whom I never met and didn't know. He started it and I felt this time I wasn't going to let it go. I also have a glib tongue and had learned to use it wisely in my 66 years; however, this guy got to me. I cleaned his clock gamewise and psychologically.
Somehow, we got into a reasonable discussion. He told me he was a 15 year old who was handicapped. Whether it was true or not, it opened my eyes. I am the adult and I can control the situation and my tongue. I also should have known better. Others may be angry and use the impersonal net to vent their anger. In the future, I will always take the high road and honor them and try to make them feel good about playing me...the result will be that I honored myslf.
I dont mind trash talkers and hope they dont mind a knuckle sandwich!
Nov 19, 2007
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#55
there is now a "disable chat" button which appears top right corner of the "chat window"
Many thanks too chess.com team ..
If someone trash talk me and then I win. I would rub it in their face.
Trash talking and chess....I have not experienced it here yet but I am sure I will. Trash talking is acceptable if the relationship with the other player is there. I have made friendly jests to players I play regular but no trash talking. It all comes down to how well you know the opponent. If you have a repoir with them and they know you are not serious then no problem but with a new opponent?? No, it should not be acceptable.
I only do it if they start it first (never)
I love kibitzing. I really don't quite know anyone here well enough to start yet, but hopefully soon. A prerequisite is friendship between the kibitzing players. Also important is that their relative strenghts are similar, otherwise one player is always on the receiving end. I never say anything mean or antagonistic, but maybe something about the knight on the rim, or the "big pawn" on b3 (hemmed in bishop). I think one of my best lines ever was in a game where I was in a seriously bad way, and my opponent (and friend) missed the opportunity to "put me away" and instead eased my game considerably. My remark was, Oh please Brer Fox, whatever you do don't throw me into that briar patch.
If I get a trash talker, I have a good time with it and usually talk trash back a little bit.
As others have mentioned, trash talking can be fun. But there is always the finge element out there who take it seriously and mean every word they say to you. For these people, it's not about fun, it's about being mean.
Well, they have every right to be the mean empty shells of a human being that they are. If they are like this, I'll do whatever I can to crush them and never play them again. If they beat me, I don't lose any sleep over it because at the end of the day, I really do feel sorry for them. I mean, how terrible it must be to carry that much negative energy around with them everywhere they go? Imagine how this affects every aspect of their daily lives.
It actually makes me sad.