Yeah I requested to switch to U2000. But I will definitely play U2200 at the Eastern Open next month. Thanks
@SmyslovFan the coach is for improving my chess, and I asked him this question at the end of my last session.
U2200 or U2000
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Nov 23, 2015
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Another typical chess.com forum post -- come asking for advice, then argue with everybody that gives you advice
I don't think I did that- actually I ended up agreeing with the majority of people and changing my mind completely. Is that not good enough for you, oh mighty soupmaster?
Play in the U2200, get trashed, learn.
Nov 23, 2015
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dpnorman wrote:
My chess coach advised me to play U2000, and given that there are other open tournaments coming up that are smaller than the National Chess Congress, I'll have plenty of opportunities to play U2200 in the future.
Good coach.
Nov 23, 2015
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N0S0UP4Y0U wrote:
Another typical chess.com forum post -- come asking for advice, then argue with everybody that gives you advice
Thats point of forums. a guy with an opinion comes and ask community, while sharing his ideas/vision of the problem, so he can have wide range of answers. we type what we think and explain why. Is not nesecery for him to have to agree with everyone. Many does not always mean right. and a gm opinion not alwals is better than what many suggest.
in the UK.....with a rating of 150 (1800) you would more often than have to play in an Open tournament anyhow!? But also, sadly, the cost of playing in a small tournament is around $50-70 to win around $500.....pitiful really.
It really boils down to what motivates you to play in a chess tournament, especially with the costs involved in getting there, accommodation and other costs against winning any money. Unless of course, money doesn't motivate you, in which case it is knowing how you feel when you lose lots of games? If you have prepared well, play in the U2200.
In honesty from my vast tournament experience, the difference between 2000 and 2200 is not very much (175-200 in British Chess Federation ratings). I would only concern myself with someones ability when they are >2300 or IM level, other than that they're just an amateur.
best of luck though!
I sent CCA an email asking for a section change yesterday. I have not received any response and when I call them no one picks up. Does anyone know how to get ahold of these people? They seem horribly disorganized
Nov 24, 2015
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I'm guessing you've tried their recommended links and emails. I suggest patience, and get there early to make sure you're in the right section.
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dpnorman wrote:
I've been battling with this question all week and I want some advice on it.
I'm registered to play in the National Chess Congress next weekend in Philadelphia, and I'm currently signed up for the U2200. My rating is 1841.
I have a terrible record against experts in my chess career, and I was hoping to play a good deal of them in this tournament to try to gain experience and maybe win a game or two. But...
I worry it will be too much. As it stands I'm right at the bottom of my section and I think I may lose all my games.
If I switch to U2000, I will be slightly below the middle of the pack, and I'm confident I will do well, but I'm not sure if U2200 will be a better opportunity for me to play stronger players. I'll also be under more pressure to get good results in the U2000 section, and the last time I went to Philadelphia to play chess, I played in the Philadelphia Open U2000 and had by far the most embarrassing tournament performance of my life, losing five games in a row. I think I'm better than I was then, as I've done a lot of training and studied quite a bit, but that just goes to show that U2000 could be difficult also.
The other option is to do U2000 now and play U2200 at the Eastern Open in December or something, which may be a little easier since the sections for that tournament go Open-U22-U19 instead of U20.
I am very conflicted so any advice would be appreciated.
Just my .02 cents, but based on your rating, you should stick with the U2000 section.
I can only get there so early since I am taking the train from Baltimore to Philadelphia on Friday morning. Given that they don't seem to respond to calls or emails, and that they don't update the online registration, I don't think there's any way for me to know that I'm in U2000
They say on the site that they won't accept section changes less than two hours before the tournament, that's what's concerning me. Anyhow, there's not much any of you guys can do, so thank you all for your advice on the section choice :)
@ dpnorman, you have to think in a money tournament you are giving an expert an easy point, it might be a learning experience for you but what about the other experts who have to face each other and not play you, one point might be the difference in winning a tournament. Let me put it this way, how would you like some 1500 uscf to enter U2000 and you play him, you won't gain much rating from that 1500 uscf plus it will effect your over all rating at the end of tournament, those who are luck not to play the 1500 and play only 1800-1999 will gain more rating points. My friend who was 1500 uscf at the time only lost one rating point for each of his lost to the expert, there was no risk and everything to gain in playing up. Like I said before if I pay to play experts only I don't want to play down, that is why I enter u2200. In my chess club I have no choice must play a B-class player in the first round, it take me two to three round to face an expert, if I am luck to win all my game I gain 10 to 20 point for each club tournament, but could easily lose 30 to 50 points, most experts gain 5 to 10 points each club tournament, that is a lot pressure, you have to win all your games against low rated players and try to keep even or better against the other experts to gain some rating points. If you ever get to expert level you will know what I mean.
@ SmyslovFan, I did, I am venting on some of the unjustice going on chess tournament, not on dfnorman. I was once pair against 1200 uscf in my chess club the first round, I gain no rating point when I did beat him but he could of gain 32 points, I should of took a bye. I won all my games,playing the 1200 uscf effected my rating gain, I am still mad at this.
yureesystem wrote:
@ dpnorman, you have to think in a money tournament you are giving an expert an easy point, it might be a learning experience for you but what about the other experts who have to face each other and not play you, one point might be the difference in winning a tournament. Let me put it this way, how would you like some 1500 uscf to enter U2000 and you play him, you won't gain much rating from that 1500 uscf plus it will effect your over all rating at the end of tournament, those who are luck not to play the 1500 and play only 1800-1999 will gain more rating points. My friend who was 1500 uscf at the time only lost one rating point for each of his lost to the expert, there was no risk and everything to gain in playing up. Like I said before if I pay to play experts only I don't want to play down, that is why I enter u2200. In my chess club I have no choice must play a B-class player in the first round, it take me two to three round to face an expert, if I am luck to win all my game I gain 10 to 20 point for each club tournament, but could easily lose 30 to 50 points, most experts gain 5 to 10 points each club tournament, that is a lot pressure, you have to win all your games against low rated players and try to keep even or better against the other experts to gain some rating points. If you ever get to expert level you will know what I mean.
While i understand what you are saying, dpnorman has a right to play in any section he wants. If someone does not want to play a lower rated player simply because it can possibly affect there rating/prize money/finish, then play up. He and no other player is obligated not to play up because it may inconvience a higer rated player. I would imagine the point of chess is to have fun.
NM linlaoda wrote:
U2000
If you may, it sounds like you are running away out of fear to losing to someone within your rating. Does a loss against an expert feel significantly less bad to a loss against a 1900?
If you want to be a master you have to beat u2000 consistently. It's better to deal with the problem now rather than later.
I totally agree with the master. It is better to play at your level and beat your peers, you learn more than losing all your games. It is annoying I paid to play only experts some low rated players decide to play among experts so he can have experience at our expense, you don't know what you actually do to us, we don't gain that much rating points beating you, have my friends was 1500 uscf playing in experts section, he did manage to draw one expert but lost five games, what is sad, he actually went up in rating, dispicable! Now he is rated 1800 uscf and hates it when some low rated player is playing the A-class, pay back is a bitch! If can't beat your peers you don't deserve to play in a higher section.