Ultimate guide to Bongcloud opening

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kingpawnstrike
jpd303 wrote:
Lokaz wrote:
kingpawnstrike wrote:

What is the point of this?  The Bongcloud is the worst opening in chess.  Ke2 blocks the bishop and queen and opens the king and e4 to attack.


 

Alas, my friend. Seeing this post, I realize that you truly require a vigorous education on chess.

First of all, After 1.e4, the d3 and f3 squares are weakend. With 2.Ke2, these weak points are deftly bolstered in.

Second, it utilizes prophylaxis against developing either your Queen or Bishop prematurely.

Third, with 2.Ke2 your king is mobilized, and once the pieces rapidly come off the board, white will have the more active king in the endgame.


 a sublime explination. the more subtle poits of the opening brought to light from under a veil of smoke. the mysterious bongcloud has entranced another young master it seems. the bongcloud, as pointed out in the quote, is an opening of the future. always looking forward toward the ending never backwards toward the start.


Still, the squares can be reinforced in other ways.  The Boungcloud does not work at the level where the factor of surprise without a basis in SOME theory stops working.  When e4, e5 is played, may I reccomend 2. Nf3, Nc6 3. Bc4 OR Bb5 OR d4.  Defense is only part of the game.  Whereas the Boungcloud is funny to play, I do not see how it would be successful in any rated or tournament game unless the person being played is already lacking the skill to combat it.  Ke2 does not help the center and blocks the king and bishop.  Besides, most of the games listed here were boungcloud losses.  If you want to play a novelty, I suggest the Hippopotomous, though I must admit that I do not know it.  Just trying to provide insight.

kingpawnstrike

If anyone wishes to play a game (as white) with the Boungcloud against me, I will demonstrate my point.

GargleBlaster

Greetings fellow chess players. I just returned from a series of experiments with my prototype Mark IV chronomatic conflagubalator contraption, and have retrieved from the year 2077 this chess pamphlet:

A Neophytye's Primer on the Bongcloud System, by Intergalactic Grandmaster Magnus Carlsen-Skripchenko the Third

"As most of you know, though the Bongcloud System now occupies a major branch of modern opening theory, such was not always the case, and even today there are those that underestimate its potency, in spite of it being adopted in every game of the recent World Championship match between Sergi Bogartsky of Greater Kasparovstan and Wei Wong of New Tibet. Let us therefore begin our survey of this powerful setup with the deciding game of that match: ..."

 

The manuscript goes on, but unfortunately becomes illegible due to the unavoidable effects of paraperiodic metamolecular hyperchromatic recursionositudinousness.

Hope this helps,

- GargleBlaster

acbell1996
kingpawnstrike wrote:
jpd303 wrote:
Lokaz wrote:
kingpawnstrike wrote:

What is the point of this?  The Bongcloud is the worst opening in chess.  Ke2 blocks the bishop and queen and opens the king and e4 to attack.


 

Alas, my friend. Seeing this post, I realize that you truly require a vigorous education on chess.

First of all, After 1.e4, the d3 and f3 squares are weakend. With 2.Ke2, these weak points are deftly bolstered in.

Second, it utilizes prophylaxis against developing either your Queen or Bishop prematurely.

Third, with 2.Ke2 your king is mobilized, and once the pieces rapidly come off the board, white will have the more active king in the endgame.


 a sublime explination. the more subtle poits of the opening brought to light from under a veil of smoke. the mysterious bongcloud has entranced another young master it seems. the bongcloud, as pointed out in the quote, is an opening of the future. always looking forward toward the ending never backwards toward the start.


Still, the squares can be reinforced in other ways.  The Boungcloud does not work at the level where the factor of surprise without a basis in SOME theory stops working.  When e4, e5 is played, may I reccomend 2. Nf3, Nc6 3. Bc4 OR Bb5 OR d4.  Defense is only part of the game.  Whereas the Boungcloud is funny to play, I do not see how it would be successful in any rated or tournament game unless the person being played is already lacking the skill to combat it.  Ke2 does not help the center and blocks the king and bishop.  Besides, most of the games listed here were boungcloud losses.  If you want to play a novelty, I suggest the Hippopotomous, though I must admit that I do not know it.  Just trying to provide insight.


may i recommend that you yourself try the "nosenseofhumor" opening, the main anti-bongcloud line.

aly_badawy_zodiac

this game is nonesense qb7 checkmate for black on move 27

also qd3 in my opinion is a terrible blunder bxd3 game over for black a white has so deeply penetrated

in my opinion this opening is so much over rated and not good at all 

no offense IWISHIWASSMART

Azukikuru
GargleBlaster wrote:
A Neophytye's Primer on the Bongcloud System, by Intergalactic Grandmaster Magnus Carlsen-Skripchenko the Third

Hmm... I guess that in 2077, it's no longer about getting your king to the other side, man.

Also, 27. Qb7+?? Kxb7

bongloard

I should definitely play this opening more often!

zarusan

this is my game with Bongcloud. Bongcloud is a great opening when you play it with smart and strong move.. have fun :)
zarusan

bongcloud lover
jpd303
kingpawnstrike wrote:

Still, the squares can be reinforced in other ways.  The Boungcloud does not work at the level where the factor of surprise without a basis in SOME theory stops working.  When e4, e5 is played, may I reccomend 2. Nf3, Nc6 3. Bc4 OR Bb5 OR d4.  Defense is only part of the game.  Whereas the Boungcloud is funny to play, I do not see how it would be successful in any rated or tournament game unless the person being played is already lacking the skill to combat it.  Ke2 does not help the center and blocks the king and bishop.  Besides, most of the games listed here were boungcloud losses.  If you want to play a novelty, I suggest the Hippopotomous, though I must admit that I do not know it.  Just trying to provide insight.


 i truely hope this is some sort of sick humor sir...if not i dont appreciate you personal attack on me or the beloved bongcloud...while it may be true that there are "better" openings for tournament or match play, what is not true is the religious idolatry, the golden-calfism, the worship and evangalistic praise of these "mainstream" openings. Had Lasker known of the superhypermodern cutting edge theroy of the bongcloud, he would have played it vs Capa in the WC match and outwitted the younger cuban in typical Lasker fashion. Kasparov was rumored to have spent hours analyzing the bongcloud in preparation against Kramnik but never used the opening in order to keep his reasearch secret until his triumphant return to chess Dec 21, 2012.

Wolfwind

Also Boncloud ruins the Fischer idea of random chess being the only book opening playable in every possible set ie.

jpd303

wow fischer random AND the bongcloud! holy crap add a blindfold and we got the ultimate chessic test of visualization, concentration and creativity!

pauix
Woodthumper wrote:

I challenge anyone to try this silly bongcloud on me.  I will eat them alive.  Loss of tempos, moving king towards center...seriously  this must be a joke!  hahahahahaahahah


Let's give it a try, then. Wink

Azukikuru
Woodthumper wrote:

I challenge anyone to try this silly bongcloud on me.  I will eat them alive.  Loss of tempos, moving king towards center...seriously  this must be a joke!  hahahahahaahahah


Lokaz

You dare defy Lenny Bongcloud! YOU MUST DIE!!!

Sorry, I just had to do that.

pauix
The Bong is sound... on bullet games!Wink
Keirdre
pauix wrote:

 

The Bong is sound... on bullet games!

Lost on time?  Haha, unlucky!

zarusan

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/game-showcase/play-with-bongcloud

soothsayer8

I'm looking for those interested in developing Bongcloud theory. Send me a game request with the name 4/20. I'll play either side!

pauix

I'd love to study the Bong a little more. Anyone interested in a bong-game just tell me!