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johnlisbonwood

CHEATER ARE USING DISCONNET TO WIN!

 

It happened to me 7 time in two days. I have a winning position over a player with a better raking. All of sudden the disconnect goes on. When it reconnects all my time is gone and I lose. The other player never loses time. It never happens in an even game or with a player close to my rank. I'm convinced that these player know how to activate disconnect and do it on purpose. THIER CHEATERS. Is anyone else having the same problem?

duskrevival

@The OP,

I think that's probably a problem with your own internet. It happened to me before, but I am sure it's always a internet lag. When it says "Connection Interrupted." Your Internet is having problems, and you can see your opponent's time keep running.

It says "SoAndSo" has disconnected In the chat box, then they did disconnect,

 

In other words, you are probably the one that disconnected(even though you are not willing to) due to your internet lag.

Correct me if my assumptions are wrong. 


oinquarki

Hilarious!Laughing

johnlisbonwood

Yes there clock is ticking when they disconnect. However, when the reconnect comes I AM THE ONE WHO HAS ALL TIME GONE. The cheaters know just how to do this. The reconnect come just as my time is reading "no time" even thought my clock show the same time as the when the reconnect all during the disconnect. Then the reconnect comes on and all of a sudden my clock instanly changes to Zero. It has happened 7 times in two days and the other player never loses time. Thier game clock even goes down to zero and the second the reconnect comes on their time goes back to the time they had when the disconnect happened. Again it's all part of the trick they have figured out. It just can't happen 7 times exactly the same way.

You know who you are. Why don't you post how you do it?

oinquarki

Lmao this thread rocks!

omnipaul

Their clock goes down because the clocks you see are "stored" on your own computer.  Here's how it works:

You lose connection at some point

You make a move.  On your computer, "your clock" stops moving and "your opponent's clock" starts.

The move you made never makes it to the chess.com servers because you lost connection.  According to the official clock, your clock is still going down, even though on your computer, it is your oppenent's clock that is going down.

You regain connection to the chess.com server.

The chess.com server corrects the clocks on your computer with the official time, showing that your time is zero and your opponent still has time.

 

Notice that none of this has anything to do with anything your opponent does.

kco

different thing here yeres30, we are not taliking about lag here is about the disconnection thing. 

ivandh
yeres30 wrote:
kco wrote:

different thing here yeres30, we are not taliking about lag here is about the disconnection thing. 


kco, unless you know what a "lag switch" does, you are no authority and presume to be an expert on the matter of "lag switch" to dismiss my comment.  

How do you know, kco, that a "lag switch" does not cause a "Connection Interrupted"?

I noticed that you have not played a single Bullet Game nor a 3-minute game so what do you know of what we here in this thread are talking about.


Everyone, let's all shut up and hear what Yeres has to say because he is the only one who is qualified, according to himself.

checkmateibeatu
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Cheating on chess.com: the final proof
06/04/10 at 08:31:10  

All the online chess sites have a problem with cheaters who use chess software to create their moves, what is strictly forbidden on correspondence chess sites like redhotpawn.com, gameknot.com, chess.com, chesshere.com, chessworld.net etc.

There are chess sites which seriously try to detect and ban cheaters from their site. And there are "cheater-friendly" sites like chess.com. The policy of chess.com: only if we are 100 % sure, we ban cheaters. What means, that only the dumbest cheaters are caught. But acccording to Erik, the owner of chess.com, his site does not face a cheater problem. He states on his site, that below a level of 2200 (= master chess players) the percentage of cheaters on his site is below 1 % and therefore you need not care about that topic at all.

We did not believe that, that's why we run an interesting field experiment. We wanted to know it exactly. We registered a new account on chess.com, built up a nice profile with a correspondence chess rating of around 1900 and then started to cheat! Of course we were not so stupid to run the chess software on the same PC, many chess sites check for multitask-switching. We created our chess moves using Chessbase Pocket FRITZ 4.0, the worldwide best pocket chess software, run on a Pocket PC IPAQ 114 with over 600 Mhz, quite fast. This programme reached in 2009 an ELO performance of 2900. What means that it plays better then all grandmasters and of course must beat all amateur chess players on chess.com below 2000 level without exception. As we allowed Pocket Fritz just some seconds to think over its moves instead of a tourney chess time control, the performance could have been somehow weaker, lets say only 2700 ELO, still enough to beat anybody on chess.com.

We played 50 games on chess.com. We cheated all those 50 games, but sometimes only used the second best move instead of the best one (Pocket Fritz is the only pocket chess software with a multivariant-modus, it can show the second best move, third best move etc.). Our opponents on chess.com were all rated 1700 to 1900, far away from expert level. According to Erik (you remember: cheating is a very tiny problem on chess.com). we should have won all 50 games, shouldn't we?

You will be amazed to hear the result: a whopping 14 (!!!) % of our games were either drawn or even lost. Against chess.com opponents rated 1700 to 1900 – unbelievable. This is the final prove that chess.com has a serious cheater problem! Not to mention that of couse we have not been caught cheating during those 50 games (what could for sure go on for another hundreds of games without being caught). Maybe you ask now: if those people cheated (and it's a fact, they did), why their ratings are not higher? Well, nearly nobody is so dumb to cheat every game. People cheat just sometimes. Chess.com publishes a list of caught cheaters every months and the majority of caught cheaters on this list are rated below 2000. 

Dear Erik: if you read this (hopefully you do): you have created a superbe site, but your site has a serious cheater problem. You should rename your site. maybe cheater.com is the better name.

Considering that chess.com is the most expensive chess site out there (99 $ per year), clients could expect upon my opinion a better cheating-protection.

(Title modified for grammatical reasons ~SF June 4, 2010)


I think a possible solution to possible cheaters here is when chess.com decides that there is a good chance that someone has cheated they should come in some category and that there should be an option in settings to not play anyone in that category.

sftac

Post #10's got it -- the OP's disconnecting and his opponent's clock appears to still be going, but he's simply not in tune with the site's real clock activity (his own clock running down during his disconnection).

sftac

ps.  I disagree with the last remark.  It does have something to do with what his opponent's doing.  His opponent's choosing to match up with him (perhaps, the word's out that the OP's prone to disconnections, so, is an easy target for sure wins).

OsageBluestem

Why would anyone want to cheat at chess? The whole thrill of it is knowing you made those moves by your own power and that you have that power within yourself to do it again. Any idiot can watch two computers play chess. There's no glory in that.

So, if there is anyone who does cheat out there just know you haven't acomplished anything. You have no glory and you can't really play. Cheating at games is stupid.

checkmateibeatu
Post 17... +1
backyardstar

I thought everyone knew about the "Make Opponent Disconnect" button in the corner of the screen. 

Cystem_Phailure
yeres30 wrote:
kco wrote:

different thing here yeres30, we are not taliking about lag here is about the disconnection thing. 


kco, unless you know what a "lag switch" does, you are no authority and presume to be an expert on the matter of "lag switch" to dismiss my comment.  

How do you know, kco, that a "lag switch" does not cause a "Connection Interrupted"?

I noticed that you have not played a single Bullet Game nor a 3-minute game so what do you know of what we here in this thread are talking about.


Oh boy!  We've got a perfect combination here:  a sore loser who's argumentative and completely clueless.  Sit back folks, this thread's got potential! Cool 

kco

Hey I am not joining up with that guy, he been complaining all week about it. 

duskrevival
backyardstar wrote:

I thought everyone knew about the "Make Opponent Disconnect" button in the corner of the screen. 


Chess.com added requirements to using that button. The frustration level must be as high as required to activate that button. 

Cystem_Phailure

Another who has nothing to do but troll. (post #23)

Another one who has nothing to do but troll. (post #24)

Of course because all you do is troll.  (post #25)

Well, we're off to a disappointing start.  You know, if you're going to hold our interest, you're going to need to come up with a much better line of attack.

kunal0507

ya its true..it happened with me too...i thought its my fuck'en net prob...now i dont think so...and it usually happens when you are in a winning position...jezz

Cystem_Phailure

I know the difference between lag and a disconnection.  Cool

kco

kunal0   disconnecting when they are in the losing position will come under the Fair play policy

http://support.chess.com/Knowledgebase/Article/View/171/0/fair-play-policy

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