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We aren't playing real people on chess.com
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80% I'm playing AI. If your beating the computer it will sometimes take two moves in row...I didn't even move sometimes and the computer will capture a piece after moving twice. It's a glich in the software, but it happens. Then, lower rank playres always make the correct move...and think for a long time to find the correct move...eveyone knows lower rank players move hastely and blunder. So, that's AI. Then, my opponent never runs out of time. It could be .09 seconds on the clock, and my opponent will make 25 correct moves to checkmate me before time runs out....so that's AI. It's still fun.
Nov 17, 2023
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#164
ebgebg wrote:
80% I'm playing AI. If your beating the computer it will sometimes take two moves in row...I didn't even move sometimes and the computer will capture a piece after moving twice. It's a glich in the software, but it happens. Then, lower rank playres always make the correct move...and think for a long time to find the correct move...eveyone knows lower rank players move hastely and blunder. So, that's AI. Then, my opponent never runs out of time. It could be .09 seconds on the clock, and my opponent will make 25 correct moves to checkmate me before time runs out....so that's AI. It's still fun.
The system won't allow two moves in a row.
Please provide links to any game where that happened.
B1ZMARK wrote:
I won a bunch of games. It seems like something's up - I lose material, but if i keep playing fast then my opponents usually blunder their stuff back. Why do they do this? I am convinced that they are not real people. Real people wouldn't make such mistakes.
For example, my 2270 opponent:
This is unacceptable.
Sometimes, I even find people playing different openings against me. Everybody knows that you should control the center, but I even saw someone play 1...c5. Obviously people don't play moves such as these because we all know that we are taught to play 1.e4 e5. Clearly these people are not humans on chess.com.
Sometimes, my opponents are playing very well and beating me but then make mistakes. These people are clearly using the engine; I only win because they got too slow or turned their engine off, allowing me to win my games.
Sometimes, I will be playing and get into a winstreak. This is clearly an example of matchmaking manipulation. When you win a game, you should play someone harder, not easier. Winstreaks and loss streaks are the clearest example of matchmaking manipulation.
Why does it seem like I am playing computers until they suddenly play like humans? This needs to stop.
Not only that, but I've improved fastest when I didn't have premium. Now that I have premium, chess.com pairs me up against harder opponents, lowering my real rating. I should be rated 2690 but I am stuck in the 2300s. This is obviously a ploy to make sure people do not buy premium on chess.com in the future. To protest this, I will be staying as a premium member and I hope many others will do the same.
The site itself is a money-making scam.
toxic_internet wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
I won a bunch of games. It seems like something's up - I lose material, but if i keep playing fast then my opponents usually blunder their stuff back. Why do they do this? I am convinced that they are not real people. Real people wouldn't make such mistakes.
For example, my 2270 opponent:
This is unacceptable.
Sometimes, I even find people playing different openings against me. Everybody knows that you should control the center, but I even saw someone play 1...c5. Obviously people don't play moves such as these because we all know that we are taught to play 1.e4 e5. Clearly these people are not humans on chess.com.
Sometimes, my opponents are playing very well and beating me but then make mistakes. These people are clearly using the engine; I only win because they got too slow or turned their engine off, allowing me to win my games.
Sometimes, I will be playing and get into a winstreak. This is clearly an example of matchmaking manipulation. When you win a game, you should play someone harder, not easier. Winstreaks and loss streaks are the clearest example of matchmaking manipulation.
Why does it seem like I am playing computers until they suddenly play like humans? This needs to stop.
Not only that, but I've improved fastest when I didn't have premium. Now that I have premium, chess.com pairs me up against harder opponents, lowering my real rating. I should be rated 2690 but I am stuck in the 2300s. This is obviously a ploy to make sure people do not buy premium on chess.com in the future. To protest this, I will be staying as a premium member and I hope many others will do the same.
The site itself is a money-making scam.
It's not a "scam" in the traditional sense. Everyone knows there are large automated systems in use here. And I suppose most people realize there has to be to save money and be more efficient. Nobody is pretending otherwise or trying to deceive anyone in that regard.
I don't remember exactly when, but years ago I was playing golf and I met a fellow chess.com user. It is much more fun to play irl than online, but there are definitely real people on chess.com.
ebgebg wrote:
80% I'm playing AI. If your beating the computer it will sometimes take two moves in row...I didn't even move sometimes and the computer will capture a piece after moving twice. It's a glich in the software, but it happens.
I have probably played over 2,000 games and I have never seen this.
If you don't play for a while, the first games you get are weird. They remind me of playing against a bot that takes it easy on you when you blunder (like the rubber band mechanic that mario kart uses). The game itself feels almost staged. The chats are suspect sometimes too. I might be paranoid living in a world with chatgpt and the AI bubble.
Jun 19, 2024
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#170
lfPatriotGames wrote:
toxic_internet wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
I won a bunch of games. It seems like something's up - I lose material, but if i keep playing fast then my opponents usually blunder their stuff back. Why do they do this? I am convinced that they are not real people. Real people wouldn't make such mistakes.
For example, my 2270 opponent:
This is unacceptable.
Sometimes, I even find people playing different openings against me. Everybody knows that you should control the center, but I even saw someone play 1...c5. Obviously people don't play moves such as these because we all know that we are taught to play 1.e4 e5. Clearly these people are not humans on chess.com.
Sometimes, my opponents are playing very well and beating me but then make mistakes. These people are clearly using the engine; I only win because they got too slow or turned their engine off, allowing me to win my games.
Sometimes, I will be playing and get into a winstreak. This is clearly an example of matchmaking manipulation. When you win a game, you should play someone harder, not easier. Winstreaks and loss streaks are the clearest example of matchmaking manipulation.
Why does it seem like I am playing computers until they suddenly play like humans? This needs to stop.
Not only that, but I've improved fastest when I didn't have premium. Now that I have premium, chess.com pairs me up against harder opponents, lowering my real rating. I should be rated 2690 but I am stuck in the 2300s. This is obviously a ploy to make sure people do not buy premium on chess.com in the future. To protest this, I will be staying as a premium member and I hope many others will do the same.
The site itself is a money-making scam.
It's not a "scam" in the traditional sense. Everyone knows there are large automated systems in use here. And I suppose most people realize there has to be to save money and be more efficient. Nobody is pretending otherwise or trying to deceive anyone in that regard.
I don't remember exactly when, but years ago I was playing golf and I met a fellow chess.com user. It is much more fun to play irl than online, but there are definitely real people on chess.com.
There's never been any evidence of large automated systems. All players on this site are made by real people, even if they cheat.
I play c5. I'm not a bot.
Jun 19, 2024
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#174
Cirrin wrote:
Why bump a wasteful troll-post for no reason but to actually make a nonsense conspiracy?
Why are you so worried when somebody bumps a thread it's not like the one who bumped invited you here
Jun 19, 2024
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#175
JamesColeman wrote:
TomoMod wrote:
You are always playing real players in live and play chess, unless specifically challenging bots.
Premium and normal members have the same matchmaking, there is no difference in live games.
Obviously B1zmark's post was ironic, but are you sure about the second part? I was certainly under the impression that it aims to pair premiums together if possible, before widening the pairing parameters if needed?
why would they do that?
i can't tell where the satire ended
Jul 28, 2024
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#179
PILOTOXOMXD wrote:
i can't tell where the satire ended
Are you a premium member ?? Mmmmmmm
This is fake because I accidentally found my friend in a ten minute game