We need more chess titles (FM/IM/GM aren't enough)

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WGF79

Titles are great goals and achievements, that players can work towards. If you seen the intensity and determination of someone's training, who is not far from his FM/IM/GM title/norm, you know what I mean.

Unfortunately they begin with 2200 ELO (CM) and this is not a realistic goal for the majority of chess players, especially if they started to play chess as adults and have a little time to train due to a fulltime job or the like.

 

This is why I think we need more titles, for examle:

FIDE 1600 = Initiate

FIDE 1800 = Acolyte

FIDE 2000 = Adept

...[CM/FM/IM/GM]...

FIDE 2800 = Arch Master

zeus3101

Yeah, and

FIDE 3000= Grand Royale Emperor

Why not?

FIDE 1400= YGG (You're getting good)

FIDE ratings are supposed to be hard to get in the first place. And if everyone who had a FIDE raing had a title, then the titles would eventually get bigger than their actual names! It would be impractical and unnecessary if they were so easy to get. If you started at adult age, then it is actually bad luck and you cant really do anything about it... 

WGF79

I make a wish and FIDE delivers ! News from Thursday, 29 January 2015:

"FIDE Titles for the Lower Rating Band

FIDE's decision to introduce titles for the amateur and lower rated players is a big innovation for the global chess community. There is notable local chess activity around the world, but the top players of local chess clubs do not reach the traditional FIDE title level. FIDE provides a challenge to these players..."

 

 

<3 Kirsan

PilateBlue

I don't think the purpose of a FIDE title is to provide a goal to those who don't have a title.

ghillan

It already exist.. they are called class D, C , B, A players:  chess rating system .

In other words, even if you cannot call yourself a "master", any chess player that play OTB tornaments to get better elo have intermediate classes to distinguish each other and you can bet that who go to the next category is proud of that ( and work for that).

Dirty_Sandbagger

They gave us additional titles, with the "weaker" titles. You can be a weaker IM or weaker GM by having a WIM or WGM title, for example.

 

It's just that FIDE is inherently sexist and therefore despite our eternal battle for gender equality men can't have these titles yet.

 

So we don't need more titles imho, we just need equal opportunities for the existing ones.

WGF79
ghillan wrote:

It already exist.. they are called class D, C , B, A players:  chess rating system .

In other words, even if you cannot call yourself a "master", any chess player that play OTB tornaments to get better elo have intermediate classes to distinguish each other and you can bet that who go to the next category is proud of that ( and work for that).

This may be the case in the US but in Europe we don't have this. And they are not official fide titles. For us the new titels are a nice addon and with the lowest title starting at around 1100 Elo (according to the fide handbook http://www.fide.com/fide/handbook.html?id=179&view=article), there are title-goals even for the beginners.

 

I think kirsan must read chess.com forums, must have seen my thread and reacted immediately. For having made this proposal i should get an extra-title "The Grand Dragon of the Dark Knight Order (TGDotDKO)" or something :D

Martin_Stahl
Vo1d3mort wrote:

I make a wish and FIDE delivers ! News from Thursday, 29 January 2015:

"FIDE Titles for the Lower Rating Band

FIDE's decision to introduce titles for the amateur and lower rated players is a big innovation for the global chess community. There is notable local chess activity around the world, but the top players of local chess clubs do not reach the traditional FIDE title level. FIDE provides a challenge to these players..."

 

 

<3 Kirsan

That is only for players in the Online Arena and ratings there. And you get the benefit of paying for your new title once you get the associated rating.

FireAndLightz

100=UM ( u mad )

Sred

Arch Master isn't that bad ... certainly better than "Super Grandmaster". Smile

intensetbug

https://www.fide.com/component/handbook/?id=179&view=article 

here is the link to the lower titles

Dirty_Sandbagger
zeus3101 wrote:

FIDE 3000= Grand Royale Emperor

More like FIDE 3000 = Cheater, pending investigation for account closure

Pladzee

Here's my opinion on how many chess titles there should be (including already said titles and excluding national titles) *some based on custom titles others said in this forum

1: Are you mittens? (AYM)

250: Martin (MARTIN💀)

400: You Still Suck (YSS)

800: Your Still Bad (YSB)

1200: You Sleek (YS)

1600: Initiate (IA)

1800: Acolyte (AL)

2000: Adept (AD)

2000: Woman Candidate Master (WCM) *pre-existing*
2100: Woman FIDE Master (WFM) *pre-existing*
2200: Woman International Master (WIM) *pre-existing*

2200: Candidate Master (CM) *pre-existing*

2300: Woman Grandmaster (WGM) *pre-existing*

2300: FIDE Master (FM) *pre-existing*

2400: International Master (IM) *pre-existing*
2500: Grandmaster (GM) *pre-existing*
2700: Arch Grandmaster (AG)

2800: Elite Grandmaster (EG)

2900: World Champion (WC)

3000: Grand Royale Master (GRM)

3500: Leela Grandmaster (LG) *based on leela chess zero*

3700: Stockfish (SF) *literally*

4000: AlphaZero (AZ)

9999: Guy that is being investigated and is not prepared for account closure (GTIBIAINPFAC) *yep*

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hudson_the_goat
Their are also wfm wim wgm
meowmeowmeowmeoqmwo
Да, правильно.
Pladzee
ninjahudson wrote:
Their are also wfm wim wgm

I said that

hudson_the_goat
Welli dint read it
hudson_the_goat
Well i
hudson_the_goat
I commented that as soon as i saw this post, before I scrolled down
Pladzee
ninjahudson wrote:
I commented that as soon as i saw this post, before I scrolled down

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