What are each rating’s characteristics?

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DoYouLikeCurry

Hi all! I’ve been having a conversation with a new player about what counts as beginner, intermediate, advanced, expert etc. I think I’m roughly right on my characteristics of each level of play, but would love to hear your thoughts.
<400: Either new to chess to the point where they are still learning how the pieces move or missing hanging pieces all the time. If the computer didn’t force them to move their king when it is in check, they’d probably hang the king too. Games have little to no opening knowledge or principles, the middle-game is characterised by one move attacks, and the winner is normally determined by who hangs their queen first. These games rarely make their way to even semi-equal endgames
400-800: Beginner chess! Probably the most fun time for being a chess player. They don’t know enough about chess to worry too much when the engine says they blunder a lot, but they also aren’t hanging all their pieces every game. They may have watched a few opening videos, but will probably be misplaying them or treating every position like a system opening. Still missing hanging pieces or tactics they can learn from puzzles…
800-1200: This is about as far as you can get in chess without dedicating time to studying. From 1000 and beyond, most of them know at least one opening for white and one for black, though they will have chosen either the London or the Pirc. If they chose a non-system opening, they’re still playing it wrong. They’ve started doing puzzles and love finding backrank mate! They still hang it themselves a lot, though. They’ve also begun trying to craft plans, but these unfortunately are often miscalculated. The art of proving themselves wrong is yet to be learnt, but exchanges are usually calculated effectively.
1200-1500: This level of chess is good enough to impress their non-chess playing friends and family. They say words like “queen’s gambit” and “en passant”. They watch a lot of chess YouTube, but many won’t watch gothamchess anymore because he’s “for beginners”. Instead, they watch Hikaru or Eric Rosen, and think they’re learning how to calculate like a master. They like sacrificing pieces, but the sacrifices are normally speculative at best. They learn plenty of opening lines, but often forget or confuse them in real game time…
The differences in players beyond 1600 is harder to quantify until you get to around 2000. This is odd, as an 1800 should crush a 1600 nonetheless! When players get beyond the “intermediate” level of around 1500-1600, they shouldn’t be making one move blunders often at all. Instead, what separates us is the depth of our calculations and missing tactical sequences. As an 1800, I am alarmed by how often I still make mistakes in games that I wouldn’t make OTB or even in puzzles! By 2000, a chess player thinks they’re the bees knees, and really needs to be humbled by a master!
Titled players: full of themselves, for good reason mostly! Us lowly sub 2200s look on in awe at their superior chess that we can’t compete with. And the gaps between the levels beyond here are small and slight, but more important than at any other level!

DoYouLikeCurry
Christ that’s a long post I wrote! I’m looking forward to the responses and probable trolling :)
CyriakBATeman

l am BATMAN,and 700,in existential pain,I've been playing for a long time, I lost my old accounts in my fight with indians

DoYouLikeCurry
How can you lose your account lol?
CyriakBATeman

'Mein Kampf'

ice_cream_cake

Would I be correct if i tried to guess who is new player is? 😂

ShannonThrowsInValorant

Is it true that almost all 2000 elos are toxic?

ice_cream_cake

But anyway.....imo i think your descriptions seem accurate? Other than 1200-1500 liking to sac pieces and watching Hikaru and Eric Rosen. I think that depends on the person, i didn't do either tongue.png I also don't know how to describe above 1600....partially cuz im in a similar range as you but also bc im bad at noting the characteristics of diff ranges anyway.

ice_cream_cake
ShannonThrowsInValorant 写道:

Is it true that almost all 2000 elos are toxic?

.....hmm? 😱 not so in my exp.....

DoYouLikeCurry
@ice_cream_cake yeah, you’d be about right there haha…. Called me still a beginner because I’m not titled 😂😂
ice_cream_cake

We're all beginners unless we get a title, sounds about right to me.
edit: people stop taking this seriously it's a joke look at the context -.-

Tlonedyr

🥖

DoYouLikeCurry
@ice_cream_cake exactly
PromisingPawns

@ice_cream_cake then u will consider @Marqumax and @GYG beginners as well?

ice_cream_cake

hmm I'm not sure if you're pretending to miss the context or not but we are referring to an interesting comment made by someone 😂 but to answer the question i wouldn't even call a 1400 a beginner so no

ice_cream_cake

"1200-1500: This level of chess is good enough to impress their non-chess playing friends and family."
tbh i think actually only 1000-1100 is good enough for that. i remember how it felt getting stomped by someone in that rating range back before i started actually playing chess tongue.png

CyriakBATeman

honorable enemies and victorious, elo score doesn't matter

DoYouLikeCurry
@thenameofnames I meant no insult! Just a light hearted bit of fun. Note how I insulted every elo including my own :)
Despair
ShannonThrowsInValorant wrote:

Is it true that almost all 2000 elos are toxic?

2ks are humble usually its the sub 1ks hiding behind a engine but i did see some toxic 2ks which in my eyes are not close to expert since 2k cc is not 2k fide i would just call them strong advanced players

Despair
ice_cream_cake wrote:

We're all beginners unless we get a title, sounds about right to me.

were all trash compared to magnus even low titled players to him but its just how less trash can we be but i can confirm im trash