What are you thinking in each move?

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fel_u

I'm beginner.
And it is difficult for me to win a game.

Always I lose games, because of terrible rape and siege. :(

What are you thinking in each move?

To save your pieces, take as many opponent's piece as possible, expand territory, disturb opponent's purpose, or today's dinner?

please teach me.

(Sorry for my poor English.)

pdve

yukomac, learn with practice.

ticcherr

Make sur u play long game so only 15\10 nd 30 min nd after u finish ur game right down ur thouts on every one of ur moves nd post it in game anylises. if u want to go over a game i can help u out but der r much beter players in dat forum...

ThrillerFan

A common misconception about chess.  Chess isn't about capturing pieces.  Chess isn't about Defense.  Chess isn't about Tactics.  Chess isn't about Strategy.  Chess is about winning a battle.  You can't just narrow it down to individual parts.  To win a battle, you have to watch out for short term issues (tactics), long term issues (strategy), knowing when to attack and capture pieces, when you can't because of necessary defensive reasons.

Think about war.  If the United States and North Korea got into a war, are you going to send Kim Il-sung and Barack Obama to face off in the ring with a butter knife and BB gun?  If so, make sure your country never votes you into office!  Let's say the Americans send 5000 troops and the North Koreans send 5000 troops.  Can all 5000 Americans just bombard their way thru North Korea's 5000 troops?  Hell no, we'll get our heads chopped off!  Same thing if they tried to do the same thing.  On the flip side, if one American troop successfully killed one North Korean troop, and is now 5000 vs 4999, we've won, right?  WRONG!  If we all sit back and do nothing, and just let North Korean run all over us, that's going to win for us, right?  WRONG AGAIN!  You can't just have 1 idea, you have to have a complete plan.  If you were Barack Obama, you wouldn't be out to kill 1 Korean soldier.  Quite frankly, you probably wish you didn't have to kill a single North Korean soldier at all.  However, those 5000 North Korean soldiers are in essense forming a baracade around what you really want, Kim Li-sung gone for good!  However, because of the way it's set up, you have to get past the 5000 troops, which means some killing, to get to the master.  Chess is the same way.  You are after the King, but you can't just throw everything at him and leave your king in the nude, you'll get killed.  You can't just sit back and do nothing, they'll kill you.  Also, eliminating their cover, while knocking out a couple of pawns and a Bishop doesn't win you jack, it must be done in order for you to get to the culprit, the opposing King.

To win in chess, just like war, you have to have a complete plan with a balanced execution of attack and defense with a combination of both short and long term goals, and all of this has to be done with proper execution.  Just like anything else in life, you've gotta kill the main culprit, whether that be Kim Li-sung, The Queen Bee from a swarm of bees, or your opponent's King.  It's all the same concept!

bean_Fischer

Checkmate. Absolutely.

bean_Fischer

I don't care what and how many pieces are on the board. As long as the King has nowhere to go and check. That's it. Checkmate.

Markle

Usually what i am thinking each move is why does my position suck

defrancis7

Gentlemen:  Suppose for the moment that the original poster was quite serious and is really trying to understand why a player will/would make the particular move that they made instead of assuming that such a simple and obvious question is an attempt at trolling.

 

When I first started to play chess, 40+ years ago, I would play over collections of games played by the masters and wondered why the masters would play something like 1. P-Q4 (d4) or 1. P-K4 (e4) [to begin to control the center squares and make a diagional available for one of the bishops and possibly queen] in the opening.  I didn't know then about general principles:  control the center, knights before bishops, making room to castle (king's safety), etc.  It wasn't until I read Fred Reinfeld's "The Complete Chessplayer" that I began to understand such concepts (and more).

 

Moreover, I love to play chess because it is a fun activity to do.  Playing makes my mind think/(work).

 

Dee

ThrillerFan
defrancis7 wrote:

Gentlemen:  Suppose for the moment that the original poster was quite serious and is really trying to understand why a player will/would make the particular move that they made instead of assuming that such a simple and obvious question is an attempt at trolling.

 

When I first started to play chess, 40+ years ago, I would play over collections of games played by the masters and wondered why the masters would play something like 1. P-Q4 (d4) or 1. P-K4 (e4) [to begin to control the center squares and make a diagional available for one of the bishops and possibly queen] in the opening.  I didn't know then about general principles:  control the center, knights before bishops, making room to castle (king's safety), etc.  It wasn't until I read Fred Reinfeld's "The Complete Chessplayer" that I began to understand such concepts (and more).

 

Moreover, I love to play chess because it is a fun activity to do.  Playing makes my mind think/(work).

 

Dee

And what if some of our's responses are serious too!  Seriously, success in chess works like a successful murder plot, not like throwing darts at a dartboard and seeing what happens.

benedictus

One of the things I find most important to think about is what's the point of my opponent's last move

PrivatePyle99

Hey bud, check out Dan Heisman's Novice Nook articles.  He's got a lot of great advice about thought process each move.  It's fantastic stuff that really is helpful at our level.  I can't recommend it enough.

http://danheisman.home.comcast.net/~danheisman/Articles/subject.htm

Good luck.

blueemu
benedictus wrote:

One of the things I find most important to think about is what's the point of my opponent's last move. 

I often end up wondering what the point of MY last move was.

atarw

@ThrillerFan: best analogy ever

zborg

Being ahead 1-1/2 pawns constitutes a "winning advantage."  Get that and learn to convert the win, under a Game in X/5 format.

That might be the simplest version of "how to win" for beginners.

But you'll will need to buy some decent chess books (and STUDY intensely) to back it up.  Good Luck.

ThrillerFan
DaBigOne wrote:

@ThrillerFan: best analogy ever

The sad part about it is, I'm now trying to picture Kim Li-sung with a butter knife and Barack Obama with a BB gun duking it out right now!  LOL!

chasm1995

In all seriousness, I'm usually thinking, "I hope this isn't a mistake" or "S---!  It was a mistake!"

WayneT

Sadly, I'm much the same as chasm1995 lol.

 These are the things I'm "trying" to think:

1. Analyse opponent's last move and likely next two moves

2. Always move a piece for a good reason, e.g. have a plan - do not just to move for the sake of a move

3. Develop your stronger pieces a.s.a.p. (except early movement of the queen)

4. Try to control the centre squares

5. Always keep the king protected

Familiarity with many many games will help you. Analyse your old games to see what could have been done better.

fel_u

Thanks for replying.
All advices are really useful, and some are really funny.
(Kim Il-sung and Barack Obama in the ring, LMAO!)

I'll read some book and site about masters' games and think about each move carefully.

TKACHS

My thoughts before making each move is to remind myself to scan the board carefully in order to avoid blunders, and to calculate move by move how I imagine what my future board position will look like.

SingingSnail

The only question I ask ... is this where I sacrifice my queen?

On second thoughts - maybe I’ve been doing too many of those Mate in 2 puzzles Yell