What are your thoughts on chess players using cheap/dirty tricks?

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WalmartCashier

As in using their queen and bishop to checkmate you while disregarding all their other pieces in the first 4 turns?

Scottrf

There's barely a chessplayer who hasn't tried that at some point. As such I have no opinion.

AlCzervik

Winning quickly is not considered cheap or dirty.

EthanLow

I think that this is useful when I play against my brother. It finishes the game quickly as he always falls for it. You should try it.

royalbishop

This what they look like

Scottrf

If you're still falling for it, you can't really complain that people are still doing it.

EthanLow

Stop spamming with that picture.

mckn3hd

Good ol' scholars mate. It gets them everytime!

MickinMD
WalmartCashier wrote:

As in using their queen and bishop to checkmate you while disregarding all their other pieces in the first 4 turns?

I also don't consider that a dirty trick.  It may be cheap, but cheap is only doable against an opponent who hasn't studied the game enough to know to protect f7 or f2 or to be anything but a cheap opponent.

But I'll tell you something from my time as the coach of a very successful high school team and a USCF Tournament Director of Scholastic Tournaments: players who rely on early-move mates and traps generally do not become good chess players until they abandon focusing on them!

Those who become good players focus on getting to a playable middlegame and learning the tactical tools they need to overcome opponents.

Drockter

How is that cheap or dirty? The moves were legal... 

DonThe2nd

I feel good when an opponent tries for the Scholar's Mate because it usually means they don't know anything else. I like playing the French as Black because it immediately stops the early mating attacks in their tracks.

TheCalculatorKid

It's good. Gives you opportunity to develop your pieces whilst they try faffing looking for the early mate.

pdve
WalmartCashier wrote:

As in using their queen and bishop to checkmate you while disregarding all their other pieces in the first 4 turns?

Nothing wrong with it. When I went for my first tournament, I met a player who used to open the game by aiming for scholar's mate. But he was so tactical that he would steer the game in his favor anyway. 

USArmyParatrooper
It brings the queen out too early and blocks the best square for your knight.
lfPatriotGames

Curiosity made me look to see what someone considered a cheap or dirty trick. I never thought it would be legal chess moves. I assumed it was going to be something like kicking the  opponent in the leg, or wearing a sheer low cut blouse. I admit though I have never kicked anyone in the leg.

Johnkagey

WalmartCashier wrote:

As in using their queen and bishop to checkmate you while disregarding all their other pieces in the first 4 turns?

I found it a very usefull tool as it helped identify my weak points.Now they have to use expensive and "refined" tricks to get me.😁

rurb57

It's fairly unfair and I hate it. Play against your rating if you need to use cheap tricks to win. Most ppl just want to play the game and not worry about those quick elo chargers.
I got very mad and stopped playing chess along with all my friends, when everyone of us just wanted to learn the game but got this cheap bishop/queen move. It's not fun and kinda for autists that just want to win. Very cruel ppl in my opinion, I am serious about this comment. We just recently started playing chess again after 4 years and we cut out all 4 turn mates + cheap tricks.
We have a lot of fun with the game since and learned a lot

rurb57

Nope, it's Bad, it does not help anyone with the game. It's yt Tutorials, not their own work and it's lame. And yes, it is chepa, it's just winning, you do not truly love the game, you just want to frstrate others

Pzxchess
WalmartCashier wrote:

As in using their queen and bishop to checkmate you while disregarding all their other pieces in the first 4 turns?

You can punish bad openings

Pzxchess

And "dirty" stalemate tricks can also be very brilliant as well depends on how you look at it