What is the point of hyperbullet or ultrabullet?

Can a human even think that fast? I love my rapid but I doubt I could do anything in 15 seconds except just mindlessly fire pieces around. Might as well pour neat adrenaline on the keyboard and press enter.

Your descriptions.....
I won't claim to understand, but I saw GM Andrew Tang play actually meaningful ultrabullet chess. After all, high rated players do have a lot of stuff genuinely ingrained in their minds.
I have a friend who plays a TON of ultrabullet and is crazy fast. I don't know the appeal of it, and I have my own thoughts about it, but I guess some people like playing fast.
I mean....I like playing 1 minute and even 30 seconds, and I don't consider those good games, but I guess it's just for fun....so I assume that the same extends to ultrabullet. Just for fun I guess. To be fair, I've also played ultrabullet and there's something entertaining about it, but I wouldn't call it chess.

Yes.

I mean, as a simple example, you can think faster that you can talk right?

People who have been playing from a young age (GMs) can see moves and ideas much faster than their bodies can put the moves on the board (with a mouse, touchpad, or anything else).

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But is it chess?

Well... not really. I think of it like a variant. It requires similar skills, but at the same time it's very different.

Variant is a nice description Look at this person time me out in a hyperbullet game by hanging the rook with check (Also, that move quality is amazing, obviously!)

Pretty good game for 30 seconds... yeah, probably looks a little too much like real chess... not enough nonsense

I like black's first 5 moves (well, not castling) better than yours because black will be the one who gets to make threats... which is what happened (d5 and Re8) and that's why black ended up slightly ahead on the clock (IMO)

But you played well enough to get an advantage on the board and clock... I'd say your "endgame" is weak... hyperbullet endgame is something like on move 33 you realize your opponent has lost too much time, so you premove Kf1-f2-f1-f2-f1-f2 and wait for the win screen to appear... and you choose the f file since it's harder to break your premoves there (e and g files have rooks on them).

Ultra-bullet is for those who want the thrill of winning a chess game, without the need to play well.

Especially 10-second chess or faster. I think I recall even seeing 5-second chess.

Premove a string of semi-logical moves and fling some sacrificial checks in there, and the game is over.

"You won on time!"

"Yes! I rock!"

It's more like speed-cubing than chess.

I'd say it's more to sharpen your mind than anything else

Haha, wow! Cool analysis. Thanks for sharing, you have beaten titled players in bullet many times so you clearly have a sense of what bullet strategy is.

Yeah, it seems less like 'playing chess' and more 'wiring a chessboard right to your adrenal gland with zero input from your brain'.

I wouldn't mind playing some for fun but I worry it would wreck my thinking skills. I already tend to snap-react from the back of my reptile brain and then wonder why I blunder.

Also holy absolute guano, there's such a thing as 5-second chess?!

Reptile brain LOL

Yes I've seen some playing it for fun, crazily enough. It's just pure chaos.

Here's Naroditsky playing ultra-bullet against one of the Botez sisters. He lets his clock run down to 5 seconds before he makes his first move.

I wish I could be that superhuman. I have a reaction time of dog crap.

Ironic that I ever made this thread. I now have to restrict myself to only playing some as a treat after getting important stuff done because ultra is terribly addictive lol

Me reporting back almost a year later...I LOVE MY ULTRABULLET. Funny how people change.

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It's ironic I once made this thread. I'm 1500 in lichess ultra now. I don't really play it here because too much lag in the faster time controls.

I feel like ultrabullet makes me better at slower (rapid chess) because it helps with making good decisions faster. Then when I play rapid I can make a good decision quick, but then make sure it's actually good and maybe even find a better move. This is just me though, not sure about you guys.

It's easy to guess your low rated form that comment alone. Yeah nothing says "sharpening your mind" like flinging random premoves without any thought until you win on time