what is your chess.com rating compared to your Lichess rating?

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nklristic

@maxkho2

What I've said was that his percentage is greater here because of more beginners on this site (most people are beginners, as the rating average of 640 suggests, and this can't be disproven).

And the average is dropping which is undeniable, as 1000 is certainly a greater number than 640. You may look at it any way you wish, but I do not need better evidence than that, that this rating is falling. I am looking at this rating from time to time, and have noticed it long ago. For instance, last time I looked at it, it was just below 700.

From April 2023, I've found it:
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So it was 670 back then. Now it is 640, as I've already shown you.

The average rating on lichess and lichess tendencies are completely meaningless for me, I am talking strictly about chess.com average rating, and you can't speak about chess.com through lichess glasses, as you said it yourself, player pool is different, especially on the lower end, and that lower end is making chess.com average rating decrease, even though lichess's average is increasing (I'll take your word on it because I have no idea about lichess average rating).

Wilhopuk

1500+ on Lichess in both Rapid and Classical
990 on chess.com

maxkho2
nklristic wrote:

@maxkho2

What I've said was that his percentage is greater here because of more beginners on this site (most people are beginners, as the rating average of 640 suggests, and this can't be disproven).

And the average is dropping which is undeniable, as 1000 is certainly a greater number than 640. You may look at it any way you wish, but I do not need better evidence than that, that this rating is falling. I am looking at this rating from time to time, and have noticed it long ago. For instance, last time I looked at it, it was just below 700.

From April 2023, I've found it:
So it was 670 back then. Now it is 640, as I've already shown you.

The average rating on lichess and lichess tendencies are completely meaningless for me, I am talking strictly about chess.com average rating, and you can't speak about chess.com through lichess glasses, as you said it yourself, player pool is different, especially on the lower end, and that lower end is making chess.com average rating decrease, even though lichess's average is increasing (I'll take your word on it because I have no idea about lichess average rating).

Let me quote you to remind you what you said: "it makes sense really, the average rating is constantly dropping here, because more and more people are opening new accounts".

I'm not disputing that chess.com's average rating is dropping because it has increasingly more beginners; that's obvious. I'm disputing your assertion that "more and more people opening new accounts" necessarily means there should be more beginners at any given time.

That assertion is provably false, since Lichess also has more and more people opening new accounts, but the number of beginners there only deceases, as proven by the fact that the average rating there rises when deflation is controlled for.

The average rating on chess.com is indeed falling, but that's NOT just because new players keep joining it; it's rather because that the players that do join it are mostly casual players who don't improve much (due to not being serious about chess).

nklristic
maxkho2 wrote:
nklristic wrote:

@maxkho2

What I've said was that his percentage is greater here because of more beginners on this site (most people are beginners, as the rating average of 640 suggests, and this can't be disproven).

And the average is dropping which is undeniable, as 1000 is certainly a greater number than 640. You may look at it any way you wish, but I do not need better evidence than that, that this rating is falling. I am looking at this rating from time to time, and have noticed it long ago. For instance, last time I looked at it, it was just below 700.

From April 2023, I've found it:
So it was 670 back then. Now it is 640, as I've already shown you.

The average rating on lichess and lichess tendencies are completely meaningless for me, I am talking strictly about chess.com average rating, and you can't speak about chess.com through lichess glasses, as you said it yourself, player pool is different, especially on the lower end, and that lower end is making chess.com average rating decrease, even though lichess's average is increasing (I'll take your word on it because I have no idea about lichess average rating).

Let me quote you to remind you what you said: "it makes sense really, the average rating is constantly dropping here, because more and more people are opening new accounts".

I'm not disputing that chess.com's average rating is dropping because it has increasingly more beginners; that's obvious. I'm disputing your assertion that "more and more people opening new accounts" necessarily means there should be more beginners at any given time.

That assertion is provably false, since Lichess also has more and more people opening new accounts, but the number of beginners there only deceases, as proven by the fact that the average rating there rises when deflation is controlled for.

The average rating on chess.com is indeed falling, but that's NOT just because new players keep joining it; it's rather because that the players that do join it are mostly casual players who don't improve much (due to not being serious about chess).

Then you must have misunderstood me.
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It's rather because that the players that do join it are mostly casual players who don't improve much (due to not being serious about chess).

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This is exactly what the point of my first post is. happy.png That is why I mentioned that most of people on the site are beginners. I thought that was obvious from that post.

07643Ryan

My rating here is around 1400 and lichess rating 1900+

blunderawy

1070 vs 1500 blitz 1200 vs 700 bullet rapid same

LochaSog

Chesscom 1300 lichess 1800/1900

BASODAN

My Elo there 1454 How much is my rating worth here?

Wilhopuk
BASODAN wrote:

My Elo there 1454 How much is my rating worth here?

Just a guess, but take -500pts from your Lichess ratings to get a predicted Chess.com rating.

Wilhopuk

In Rapid

Lichess: I'm constantly beating players rated from 1500 to 1750. My rating stays above > 1500

Chess.com: I have a hard time against 1000-1100 players. I lose to some 900-1000 players. Not even lose, I've been destroyed.

In Blitz

Lichess: I'm constantly beating players rated from 1200 to 1400. My rating stays above > 1200

Chess.com: I have a hard time beating opponents rated 700-800.

Accuracies:

In Lichess, I usually get accuracies at around 80, sometimes up to 95% according to Lichess engine.

In chess.com, my accuracy is around 60 to 75% according to chess.com engine.

Random perceptions:

At chess.com there are phenomenons I almost never encounter in Lichess:
1. Most of the time I lead the game, sometimes by a fair margin. Then I end up losing. Almost like playing a weak player at the beginning, then playing a much stronger as the game goes on. On Lichess I seldom lose when I feel I'm on top, here I'd bet money that my strong start ends up badly.
2. With my main openings as black&white, I thought I have seen all counters on Lichess. At chess.com I encountered totally new and deadly counters to my strategies. Chess.com for me was like entering an adult league after playing with my own age.

InternationalMasterD

1806 top here 2170 top there

Fastatchesss

400 chess.com, and 1361 lichess.

kjz30

from what I'm reading here, I could easily be a Super GM on Lichess wink

AleJoGuillen

Same

whiteknight1968

You cannot compare because Lichess very sensibly has a separate category for slower games ie/ proper chess. For some reason, chess.com decided that 60/0 and 10/0 should both be classed as "rapid" which makes no sense to me.

medelpad

about the same but i dont play seriously there

rychessmaster1
My chess.com rating is higher than my lichess. At the highest level the inflation is actually on chess.com
Kuyoke

700 here 1200 there

falcon39

I saw a lichens 2000 game and they each hung their queens several times, like a 500 elo chess game.

LordSupremeChess
I don’t play on Lichess. I posted there till I got shadow banned.