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Unikat-Automat

All We knows about the reaction and actions of Chess.com after 24.02.2022...- no need to reminds you....

Now We all wait again the reaction of Chess.com - Which flags will be banned? Israeli or Palestinian? Who is the aggressor and who is the victim? We are waiting for your decision.

Now some worker from the site will say - We are not engaged in politics.... To which I would answer - LOL

PromisingPawns

I think none of them will be banned. AFAIK, it's a terrorist group called Hamas which is mostly responsible.

Unikat-Automat
rupam44 wrote:

I think none of them will be banned. AFAIK, it's a terrorist group called Hamas which is mostly responsible.

So, then why Chess.com banned ALL russian players, when actuallly a small group of russian politics are responsible??

Martin_Stahl
Unikat-Automat wrote:
rupam44 wrote:

I think none of them will be banned. AFAIK, it's a terrorist group called Hamas which is mostly responsible.

So, then why Chess.com banned ALL russian players, when actuallly a small group of russian politics are responsible??

Chess.com did not ban Russian players.

Unikat-Automat
Martin_Stahl wrote:
Unikat-Automat wrote:
rupam44 wrote:

I think none of them will be banned. AFAIK, it's a terrorist group called Hamas which is mostly responsible.

So, then why Chess.com banned ALL russian players, when actuallly a small group of russian politics are responsible??

Chess.com did not ban Russian players.

Talking about the flags. All the time We are Talking about the flags

Unikat-Automat

@Snookslayer, I'm a fisherman. Nothing personal, but I think if you make an IQ test with the fish you caught, the fish will score higher. How did I know? - the fish is quieter...

Ziggy_Zugzwang

To understand who is banned and who is not, one has to be cognisant of the business environment in which chess.com exists. It is not about "right or wrong".

Some say the USA is ruled by dual nationals loyal only to Fiji, the Netherlands, or Peru, but I couldn't possibly comment because people's "feelings" are more important than objective reality.

My understanding is that Hamas was favoured by those we cannot name because Arafat's moderation back in the day didn't allow for extreme reactions. The greatest enemy of the war mongers is moderation. Problem-reaction-solution.

654Psyfox

Chess.com will probably do nothing, because lots of people seem to hate Israel for no reason.

darlihysa

We must take a look at their origins. Hebrews have no flag!! Banned and forced to exile pushed out and banned from god out of their homeland hungaria. God knows this fact but he lies like a pig that he is. Arabs descend from india. That tribe of indians was banned and damned by a high indian priest because they were imorals and outspread imorality everywhere when they stopped by. They where forced to migrate to desert where an angel or demon of god duriel worked and was calling for new workers footman

MrCharlyy

Thanks for your help ✌️✌️👌

uglyork

hebrew homeland hungaria ?? come on.

uglyork

everything with religion involved becomes irrational quickly, that's the problem.

DavidCharleston

It's not the site's job to get political, it's in their charter so to speak. The site obviously made a rare exception to condemn Putin and his illegal aggression and invasion. Banning a flag isn't the same as banning Russian players, afterwards it's Putin who banned the site in Russia and made it difficult to access.

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Whereas this thread's poster, @Unikat-Automat, is a vocal supporter of Putin and his invasion of Ukraine. I have this on good authority from a mutual friend, and I've seen some of this publicly myself in the past since he's not exactly shy about it. An invasion that included such acts as, tanks firing on nursing homes and killing several seniors. Unikat Automat used to gloat and be giddy over such crimes against humanity, I also have it on good authority he sexually harassed female posters and was muted. Stick to vote chess maybe.

David
Surprised this thread wasn’t locked 6 months ago. Shouldn’t be too much longer now, though
DavidCharleston

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/global-warming---its-real-dummies

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/climate-change-huge-hoax-3

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/why-is-it-so-hard-for-you-to-accept-that-evolution-is-fact?page=3

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/f-k-lic-ess

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/pls-lock-this-we-are-talking-about-religion-and-politics

DavidCharleston
David wrote:
Surprised this thread wasn’t locked 6 months ago. Shouldn’t be too much longer now, though

The above would have to be locked as well. Invariably, discussing global warming gets politicized due to the way issues generally overlap. My own threads calling for solidarity with the people of Ukraine were locked when one poster complained. He was a troll though, don't politicize solidarity with a people and their suffering (not solidarity with a government per se). If I complained to lock a given thread of a person I disliked it wouldn't happen, if you're gonna enforce a standard enforce it for all or for none, or have dishonest double standards.

Unikat-Automat
DavidCharleston wrote:

It's not the site's job to get political, it's in their charter so to speak. The site obviously made a rare exception to condemn Putin and his illegal aggression and invasion. Banning a flag isn't the same as banning Russian players, afterwards it's Putin who banned the site in Russia and made it difficult to access.

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Whereas this thread's poster, @Unikat-Automat, is a vocal supporter of Putin and his invasion of Ukraine. I have this on good authority from a mutual friend, and I've seen some of this publicly myself in the past since he's not exactly shy about it. An invasion that included such acts as, tanks firing on nursing homes and killing several seniors. Unikat Automat used to gloat and be giddy over such crimes against humanity, I also have it on good authority he sexually harassed female posters and was muted. Stick to vote chess maybe.

So many BS in so cool morning....

I thought the id...ts on this site were over, there will always be someone to refute me...
Unikat-Automat

Of course, my past here was hot. But don't forget, that I was and I,m still the biggest Chess.com Legend around.

Now I,m a cool 😎 boy 😁

David
Tychooju12 wrote:

Come on, nobody needs a flag ban. It's obvious and everybody in the world except Jews knows who's the victim.

Just compare the number of people who died on both sides since the conflict started.

No words needed.

ok, since the mods seem to have gone to sleep on this one...

Chess.com avoids political statements because generally there's a history on both sides and it's often nuanced with no simple solutions. In the midst of those there should be some plainly self evident things: Hamas' attack on Israeli civilians was awful. Israel has the right to exist as a state. Palestine is not Hamas.

Russia and Ukraine do not have the same sort of tangled web of history as the Middle East: Russia was plainly the invader & the aggressor and has been condemned by pretty much the whole world, with a couple of notable exceptions, like China and North Korea ie. other dictatorships with notable human rights violations. The non-display of the Russian flag was not chess.com's idea, but something that a lot of organisations have adopted. including FIDE, the governing body for chess that has historically had a lot of Russian representation on it https://www.fide.com/news/1603

Trying to conflate events in the Middle East with those in Russia and Ukraine is either ignorance (at best innocent but more likely wilful) or malice or a degree of both.

tygxc

@20

"generally there's a history on both sides"
++ That applies to both conflicts. The Middle East conflict goes back to biblical times, David vs. Goliath etc. etc. The conflict in Ukraine goes back to the Crimea War, the Russian Civil War with Bolsheviks vs. Mensheviks, the Second World War and collaboration with Nazi-Germany etc.

"it's often nuanced" ++ Yes

"with no simple solutions" ++ There are simple solutions. Crimea was Russian after it was Ottoman, and became Ukrainian after Khrushchev decreed so. It is debatable if the Donbas with Russian speaking majority, Russian ethnic majority and Russian Orthodox belief should or should not belong to Ukraine. Make peace and settle on a border.
In the Middle East the 2 State Solution is simple.

"Hamas' attack on Israeli civilians was awful."
++ Yes, but the retaliation against civilians is disproportional and violates international law. Israel does the same to Gaza as Nazi Germany did in the Warsaw Ghetto

"including FIDE" ++ Yes, FIDE banning the Russian flag and not (yet) banning the Israeli flag justifies chess.com following suit.

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