What's is Magnus Carlsen's IQ?

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bigpoison
ClavierCavalier wrote:
raziel9313 wrote:

horse meat...delicious..can I order 2 steaks?

Do you really have horse meat in your country?  I know it's not unheard of like it is in the US or UK.

It's not unheard of in the U.S.  It used to be fairly common until quite recently when some crazy law was passed outlawing the commercial sale of horsemeat.

Weird.  It's okay; below beef, pork, and lamb but way out in front of chicken and turkey.  I've never eaten dog, but Lewis and Clark wrote that it is the pinnacle of carnivorous fare.

Popcorn179

Probably the same as his rating.

Spadesplayer
_yiquan_ wrote:
Spadesplayer wrote:
 

yeah exactly.

yiquan, eat some chocolate.  you'll feel better.  Wink

Radical_Drift
_yiquan_ wrote:
chessman1504 wrote:
Kingpatzer wrote:

You clearly don't understand what IQ measures, and more importantly, what it doesn't. 

+1. IQ isn't the end all measure of intelligence and academic success, in particular.

IQ isn't the end all measure of intelligence? it stands for Intelligence Quotient!!!!!!! what? 

Haha, it's all in the name, isn't it ;)? Just because it's called the Intelligence Quotient doesn't mean that it actually encapsulates all the intelligence really means to humans. Who said that it could be packaged up and wrapped in a neat little bow? I believe that intelligence is a concept that is not fully understood. I think of IQ as just a number. I used to think differently, when I was younger and wanted to "prove" how smart I was. I'm convinced that true deep thought cannot be measure by IQ.

-waller-
_yiquan_ wrote:n no, I'm not missing the point about the sicilian dragon comment. you were clearly implying that it's ridiculous for a beginner to try and play that opening. I was merely pointing to the fact that it's really not as theory dependent as the najdorf and it's not all that preposterous for a beginner to endeavor to play a few moves of it. if you had named the sicilian najdorf instead your point would come across much clearer. 

Beginners shouldn't play the Sicilian, Dragon, Najdorf, or whatever. Claiming otherwise is misguided I'm afraid. Also, there is plenty of theory in the Dragon, in fact the Yugoslav Attack is so well worked out for both sides that playing the pure Dragon is a big risk today at the top level - it's a little on-the-ropes, theoretically speaking.

bigpoison

It sure is nice to have Kenpo back.  It was gettin' boring around here.

AndyClifton
Greenmtnboy wrote:

 

To be a true genius you should be able to speak half a dozen languages fluently, be able to do logarthmic equations in your head have a working knowledge of all the great works of literature (Adler-Van Doren list) going back to the Iliad.

lol

Rasparovov
_yiquan_ wrote:

you also have to be able to do 2 flips a cart-wheel and a round-off, have found waldo every time within 3.76543 seconds and be able to make souffle.

lol found waldo

ClavierCavalier

If those requirements of Greenmtnboy's became accepted, how many of those previously called geniuses does it exclude?

Spacealien101
NameScoreDetails
Abdesselam Jelloul 198 Scored in a 2012 test including 13 dimensions of intelligence.
William J. Sidis 197 Child prodigy with exceptional mathematical & linguistic abilities.
Christopher Langan 195 Called "the smartest man in America".
Garry Kasparov 190 Chess grandmaster, writer and political activist.
Leonardo da Vinci ~190 A genius polymath: painter, sculptor, architect, scientist...
Ludwig Wittgenstein 190 Philosopher primarily in logic, the philosophy of mathematics...
Sir Isaac Newton ~190 Physicist, mathematician, astronomer, natural philosopher, alchemist...
Bobby Fischer 187 A chess Grandmaster and a child prodigy.
Marilyn vos Savant 185 Magazine columnist, author, lecturer, and playwright.
Kim Ung-Yong 170 Korean civil engineer and former child prodigy.
Albert Einstein 160 Theoretical physicist (the general theory of relativity).
Akrit Jaswal 146 Child prodigy who performed his first surgery at the age of 7.
Grigori Y. Perelman ? Solved the Poincaré conjecture.
Conflagration_Planet
Rasparovov wrote:
_yiquan_ wrote:

you also have to be able to do 2 flips a cart-wheel and a round-off, have found waldo every time within 3.76543 seconds and be able to make souffle.

lol found waldo

You also have to be able to chew gum while standing on one foot.

ClavierCavalier

Hasn't that table been posted already?  There are serious problems with it, such as the fact that it has guesses and some of those results have been disputed.  It's also interesting that they credit Einstein with the general theory of relativity, leaving out the special theory, instead of just the simple "Theory of relativity."

Conflagration_Planet

A tough genius can chew up a mouthful of aluminum foil.

AndyClifton

Since Einstein proverbially couldn't talk till he was 4, not sure how he could've done so well on this thing.

Then again, since I think IQ tests are among the stupidest, most small-minded things ever conceived, I guess I don't really care.

AndyClifton

And boy, that Hierarchy of Needs thing was dumb too (though I'll admit I am a big fan of excretion).

JacksofClubs
Greenmtnboy wrote:
ClavierCavalier wrote:

If those requirements of Greenmtnboy's became accepted, how many of those previously called geniuses does it exclude?

Actually I was thinking genius and well-rounded.  Hence the Russians put a great deal of emphasis on the full human experience and many of their GMs were very good and clever in other areas.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs

 

take acceptance of facts, lack of prejudice and morality out of that top part.

because if those things are required for "self actualization" then I don't believe there have ever been any such people on earth. if there have, they haven't ever been well known, powerful or wealthy.

AndyClifton

Are any of those things really "things"?  What a crock.

JacksofClubs

yeah exactly. sounds like they're describing jesus or buddha there.  and we all know those types of guys don't sit at the top of the pyramid. 

AndyClifton

Actually, I think there's supposed to be a giant eye there looking out.

Conflagration_Planet

I just had two fun size Snickers bars, and would like another, but I'm out of em!  Yell